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Jay Riall 02-19-2007 05:51 PM

JJ possibly missing river value?
 
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($130.20)
BB ($120.05)
UTG ($32.25)
MP ($12.05)
Hero ($143.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $19</font>, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero calls $14.

Flop: ($42.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $26</font>, Hero calls $26.

Turn: ($94.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($94.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: $94.50

Villain pretty tight - around 19/13. Pf, always a call with position or can we muck it? How does turn and river look? I don't think he calls river bet with anything I beat tbh, easy chek behind?

mattnxtc 02-19-2007 05:54 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
thre needs to be more betting here...If your afraid of a villian c/r on the turn then fine..but not betting the river is bad

Jay Riall 02-19-2007 05:54 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
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but not betting the river is bad

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Why?

Abramovic 02-19-2007 05:56 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
I dont think there is much you can get value from here. Checking is fine I think.

dirtysanchez 02-19-2007 05:57 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
i would never bet the river vs this villain. I used to every time, then i got tired of being shown QQ-KK an breaking stuff.

GrandMelon 02-19-2007 05:59 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
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I dont think there is much you can get value from here. Checking is fine I think.

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mattnxtc 02-19-2007 05:59 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
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but not betting the river is bad

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Why?

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Hands like mid pocket pairs will call a decent value bet, ak will make this call a lot thinking maybe you floated or flopped a draw that missed...there are enough hands that can call to make this +ev over just checking...most villians arent going to check the turn and river with an overpair or 2pair+

aislephive 02-19-2007 06:14 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
This is played perfect. Betting the river is awful.

ronitonline 02-19-2007 06:16 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
I think I'm checking behind here too.

TJROX 02-19-2007 06:16 PM

Re: JJ possibly missing river value?
 
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This is played perfect. Betting the river is awful.

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Agree


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