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FC07 02-19-2007 08:34 AM

is this a fold?
 
Full Tilt Poker Game #1816637534: Table De Vinci (6 max) - $1/$2 - Pot Limit Omaha - 15:49:20 ET - 2007/02/17
Seat 1: elsquidroe ($163.95)
Seat 2: HERO ($334.65)
Seat 3: EdBerg ($78)
Seat 4: Campoguy ($134.20)
Seat 5: Onyx_Hokie ($200)
Seat 6: JimmyB13 ($209.20)

elsquidroe posts the small blind of $1
HERO posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO
A c
J d
3 c
4 d

EdBerg folds
Campoguy folds
Onyx_Hokie calls $2
JimmyB13 raises to $9
elsquidroe calls $8
HERO has 15 seconds left to act
HERO calls $7
Onyx_Hokie calls $7

*** FLOP ***
Q c
9 c
K d

elsquidroe checks
HERO bets $14
Onyx_Hokie calls $14
JimmyB13 has 15 seconds left to act
JimmyB13 folds
elsquidroe folds

*** TURN ***
8 d

HERO bets $38
Onyx_Hokie raises to $177, and is all in

HERO ???

GoldenIP 02-19-2007 09:52 AM

Re: is this a fold?
 
without doing the maths, i'd call this faster than phil hellmuth probably. but i'd also repop flop probably. can be played a multitude of ways i think

GAL 02-19-2007 12:09 PM

Re: is this a fold?
 
I'd fold this PF out of the BB to a raise. As played its about $139 to win $290 ish? and you have 9/10 outs if behind, its close. Can someone work out the EV of this call, I've been trying to do some EV calcs for PLO and I'm not sure if I'm getting them. Looks like this is pretty near to neutral EV, am I right?

FC07 02-19-2007 12:17 PM

Re: is this a fold?
 
is there a tool like pokerstove - for omaha?

liquid 02-19-2007 12:24 PM

Re: is this a fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
you have 9/10 outs

[/ QUOTE ]

Note that hero turned the 3rd-nut [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw to go with his nut [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw + broadway gutshot.

Foe's play looks like the classic wait-for-safe-turn-with-flopped-straight-on-drawy-board, though if you're unlucky he may have picked up a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw. Call.

asteroid 02-19-2007 12:27 PM

Re: is this a fold?
 
look at www.propokertools.com,it has all you want

asteroid

GAL 02-19-2007 03:42 PM

Re: is this a fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
you have 9/10 outs

[/ QUOTE ]

Note that hero turned the 3rd-nut [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw to go with his nut [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] draw + broadway gutshot.

Foe's play looks like the classic wait-for-safe-turn-with-flopped-straight-on-drawy-board, though if you're unlucky he may have picked up a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] draw. Call.

[/ QUOTE ]


Sorry I didn't see that.

grizy 02-19-2007 04:39 PM

Re: is this a fold?
 
heads up, just about any 4 is playable if you got position.

MHP 02-20-2007 01:34 AM

Re: is this a fold?
 
You got a double flush draw and a gutshot straight draw for the nuts. He has the straight here almost everytime- but you have a great draw and your priced into calling. Definately call.


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