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mikelow 02-18-2007 11:01 PM

trouble with sets
 
40-80 at the Commerce. Two hands really troubled me.

Hand 1:
I'm on the button with 66. One limper in MP, cutoff bets, and I three-bet. SB folds, and BB calls. MP and cutoff also call. Flop is QJ6 rainbow. Checked to cutoff who bets, I raise and BB just calls. MP folds and cutoff calls.

Turn is a 5 putting a heart draw up. BB checks, MP checks and I bet. BB raises, cutoff folds, and I three-bet. BB four-bets and I call. River is an offsuit 6 and I call BB's bet. He shows QQ.

Hand 2:
Same game an hour later. I have black tens in the cutoff. UTG limps, a limper in MP, and I raise. SB folds, BB calls, and UTG and MP call. Flop is JT2 rainbow. Checked to UTG who bets. MP folds, BB folds and UTG calls.

Turn is an 8, completing the rainbow. UTG checks and calls my bet. River is a six, and UTG check-raises my bet. After a bit of thought, I three-bet. UTG four-bets!. I call and I'm shown Q9o.

Was my play standard? Or not?

dcb777 02-18-2007 11:11 PM

Re: trouble with sets
 
i can't see how calling with the stone nuts in hand 1 could be standard? You have 4 sixes unless this is a typo.

In hand 2 3betting the river is a spew. Just call here as a legitimate draw has already been completed.

mikelow 02-18-2007 11:13 PM

Re: trouble with sets--correction
 
Correction--river was a four on hand 1.

dcb777 02-18-2007 11:17 PM

Re: trouble with sets--correction
 
Hand 1 is ok. Just unfortunate to run into the nuts. If he 4 bet preflop and cold called that flop, I would be less happy with putting in the 3rd bet on the turn, but as played you played it fine.

poker1O1 02-19-2007 12:57 AM

Re: trouble with sets--correction
 
not a fan of preflop in hand 1. As far as turn/river combo go, I think I prefer to call turn and raise most rivers, but that's just me, again, hard not to put in 5 bets.
hand 2: every street was fine.

blindside 02-19-2007 04:47 AM

Re: trouble with sets--correction
 
ditto, pf is iffy. every street is fine. going 4 bets on the turn is fine there but from there you can't really do much else other than call unless you have some sort of image as a screwball or he'll go nuts with QJ here against a pf 3bettor.

hand 2 is fine.

UtzChips 02-19-2007 09:15 AM

Re: trouble with sets
 
I would fold hand 1 preflop, and, after reading other responses, thought I was probably too tight. However, I checked recommendation by Carson, Skalansky, Yao & Miller in their books, and they would all fold.
Hand 2: When someone ck/raises the River, they almost always have the Nutz.

HOWMANY 02-19-2007 09:51 AM

Re: trouble with sets
 
I would fold pf hand 1 unless the CO was loosey goosey and bad, but I doubt playing is a big mistake if it is one at all. Postflop perfect standard. Hand 2 fantastic ultra mega perfect on all streets.

ILOVEPOKER929 02-19-2007 09:52 AM

Re: trouble with sets
 
Hand 1: Fold preflop, everything else is fine.

Hand 2: NH.


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