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allaboutmyfetti 02-18-2007 05:00 PM

another JJ hand OOP
 
i got villian at a 21.8/19/28 after 200 hands.

he had 3b me 2 previous times in the last like 3 or 4 button rounds, once I called and c/f'd flop, once i folded pf.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (UTG): $79.35
MP: $61.50
CO: $70
BTN: $77.25
SB: $49.25
BB: $120.35

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($0.75, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $2</font>, MP folds, CO folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $4

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($12.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $8</font>, Hero calls $8

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($28.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $15</font>, Hero calls $15

<font color="black">River:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($58.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $25</font>, Hero calls $25

thac 02-18-2007 05:16 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
I would definitely stick a raise in here somewhere, probably the flop, and never putting any more money in if he calls.

Otherwise, I might check/call and lead the turn for about $20.

M4in 02-18-2007 05:23 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
I think I'd just minraise the flop, and fold to a reraise, or fold if he puts more money in on the turn...

QQ / KK / AA are a biotch [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Acein8ter 02-18-2007 05:23 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
I don't think you have to worry about a set here, just an over pair QQ-AA. He may very well be 3 barreling w/AKs.

arsenal905 02-18-2007 05:35 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
yeah, i raise the flop or the turn, and then fold the river.

allaboutmyfetti 02-18-2007 07:44 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
for everyone that says raise flop or turn ... why? fwiw I think a flop raise is pretty bad here ...

thac 02-18-2007 07:54 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
Because it's cheaper to raise flop to 22 then to call 15 on turn and 25 on river.. you're wa/wb here UNLESS villain has AKs, and I don't think he does with his betting. Villain sees you as a weak/tight since you folded to his c-bet and folded preflop to his 3bets, if you raise you're very likely to take it down.

Have you seen this guy 3 barrel with air before? If not, I don't like it and i usually raise to end the hand.

DannyOcean_ 02-18-2007 07:57 PM

Re: another JJ hand OOP
 
I don't think a flop riase is bad here. Villian is raising a TON preflop and 3-betting frequently as well. He is also probably insta c-betting any hand he 3-bets in position. His range is wide on the flop, i really like a checkraise here. If he calls, you are most probably beat. But if is three-betting wide, you force him into a tough decision with overpairs, overcards, maybe even suited connectors or something.


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