Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.15/$0.30
8 players

hand converter

UTG is sTAA (22/5.5/9), SB typical fish (82/3/0.6)

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is MP2 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls,<font color="red"> hero calls</font>, 2 folds, SB calls, BB checks.


Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5SB, 5 players)

SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, <font color="red">hero calls</font>, SB calls, BB folds.


Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 4 players)

SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 checks,<font color="red"> hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG raises, MP1 folds,<font color="red"> hero 3-bets</font>, SB calls, UTG caps,<font color="red"> hero calls</font>, SB calls.


River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (16.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets,<font color="red"> hero calls</font>, SB calls.

Edited by AussieBattler to remove result and hence bias in responses.

Results:
Final pot: 19.5BB

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

grunch

raise with A on the flop, call the 2bet on the turn. call river

don't post results

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

Hi Guitierez, welcome to the forums. good stuff on getting the converter right and posting reads. As a moderator i took the liberty of quickly editing your post to remove the your opponents cards. this is because once we know the responses it can tend to bias some responses. cheers. Aussie.

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

Hi Guitierez


I think I played a few hands with you on Stars last night. PT thinks you're a 'good player', so respec'!

*learner grunch*

I would just call the check-raise on the turn, but the other streets seem ok.

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

I don't like 3betting the turn.

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

"grunch"

I see no reason to raise on the turn. You still only have top pair/worse kicker. With one card to come you're approx. 5-1 to make the flush and you're not gonna get anywhere near the pot odds for that with a raise, plus the risk of the reraise. While villian is aggressive, he's also tight so he probably has something. I'd go to the showdown but until I hit the flush, I would go as cheap as possible with the 2 kicker.

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

Well I saw UTG's hand before Aussie removed it, so I'll try my best to ignore forbidden knowledge...

Raise the flop. It's a weak made hand with potential to improve in a few different ways. So raise for free cards.

Call UTG's turn raise. UTG's AF is huge-- I'm guessing your stats aren't over many hands. In any case he's reasonably tag, and the checkraise tells you he really likes his hand, and that he likes his hand IN SPITE OF THE A ON BOARD. So I think it's safe to say he's got two pair or better. You have a nice draw but after MP1 folds you're playing three-handed. Your draw only gives you about 25% pot equity (that's a fast guess) and so you're at a disadvantage. If you had 4 or more opponents you could profitably raise the turn, but against only 2 you must call.

Something else to notice here is that UTG checked to MP1 and you, with the intention of raising. That's weird because neither of you showed any aggression. But apparently he was pretty sure one of you was going to bet. So I'm guessing UTG has a pretty good read on either you or MP1.

The river is a fold.

from one newbie to another, welcome!

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

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I don't like 3betting the turn.

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I couldn't agree more.

As played fold the river. You're never good here, IMO.

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

Just call the c/r on the turn.
Even w/ the pot 17.5:1 on the river, we are good here MAYBE 0.05%, and I fold it. One of them can beat TPWK!! UTG has a big hand here, like always. I'd bet a good portion of my BR that SB has you beat also!

Re: Straight flush draw too aggressive?
 

raise the flop to get rid of the blinds - plays different after that

as played just call turn raise and fold river