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McDirk 02-13-2007 01:40 AM

Middle pair, big river bet
 
Villain is running 29/11/2 over 125 hands. I've seen him make this play twice on other players: once he had the nuts, once a busted flush draw. I've got position on villain and am trying to play stack-a-donk.

50NL blinds, .25/.50
Hero ($85)
Villain ($240)

Villain (UTG) raises to $3.00
Hero calls in MP with (Td Ts)
Rest of table and blinds fold.

Flop (Jc 2c 6d)
Villain bets $8.
Hero calls $8.

Turn (2d)
Villain checks.
Hero checks.

River (9s)
Villain goes all in ($229).
Hero ???

Cry Me A River 02-13-2007 01:41 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
IMHO, stack-a-donk is not really an option with middle pair.

Stack-a-donk generally involves villain with an overpair, and you have a set or better.

Cry Me A River 02-13-2007 01:44 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
BTW - I fold this river. I'd need a huge read on villain to call, and 50/50 is not it.

Etric 02-13-2007 02:32 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
I had a hand like this earlier today and I called. After the hand I wanted to punch a wall, not because I lost, but because I played the hand like an fool and literally GAVE away my whole stack.

Learn from my mistake and fold with confidence.

ninjadanger 02-13-2007 02:36 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
[ QUOTE ]
IMHO, stack-a-donk is not really an option with middle pair.

[/ QUOTE ]

JJ, 66, 22 checks turn as well. Just muck it up and curse the sky that u will never know...

Javanewt 02-13-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
Should hero have bet turn?

ontiltsoon 02-13-2007 11:06 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
I think the check is fine.
A bet would have made the pot quite big for your little hand to handle, and the board is quite dry so a free card is not bad. It also induces villain to bluff.
I would have called a 10$-12$ bet on the river. But I fold to the push.

Mazzinger 02-13-2007 11:39 AM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
I would have made a "value" bet on the turn to see what villian does.

Mazzinger 02-13-2007 12:07 PM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
It looks like villian had a marginal hand since the beginning. That all-in move at the end looks like a desperation move. Almost like he didn't want you to call. I would have call a smaller bet. I fold to the big push.

OMGTILTING 02-13-2007 12:34 PM

Re: Middle pair, big river bet
 
easy fold on the river. Wouldent even consider calling one second witouth a good read.

I bet turn alot do.


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