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BriMc 02-09-2006 03:10 PM

So I Floped a boat...
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

CO (t4735)
Button (t4225)
Hero (t12131)
BB (t7525)
UTG (t5032)
UTG+1 (t4750)
MP1 (t15620)
MP2 (t10307)
MP3 (t6055)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t600, MP2 calls t600, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t1400.

Flop: (t5400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Of course after the flop I wish I just smooth called, but I can't see playing a hand like 10s this way from the SB.
Bet or check the flop? Checking gives away a monster, betting probably scares away everything but an overpair, which is unlikely considering the way he played it.

rms39 02-09-2006 03:13 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
I'd need more information to decide. If it's a low buy in tournament and your opponent seems like a weak player, I'd just check and hope he'll make a big steal attempt. If he is seems solid or if its a higher buy in, I'd bet it out (he'll probably know that a check is real suspicious).

seke2 02-09-2006 03:14 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
Small probe bet. I'd say 1200-1500. Give him great odds to draw at basically anything including two overcards to the board. Maybe he'll believe your small bet as weakness, just trying to take down the pot cheaply and play back at you.

If he folds to that a bet that small, you probably weren't getting another chip out of him anyway.

BriMc 02-09-2006 03:20 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
Stars $5r. No read on the villian, first time I've played him, and its too soon after the break to decide if he's any good.

Mi_T_Sharp 02-09-2006 03:22 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
I would either check or make what looks like a standard continuation bet, but I would proabably just check the flop. I probably wouldn't check the turn though, because you have to bet at some point. But, in these situations, I like to allow my opponent the chance to pick something up before I go scaring him out of the hand.

Beachman42 02-09-2006 03:32 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
[ QUOTE ]
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (9 handed) converter

CO (t4735)
Button (t4225)
Hero (t12131)
BB (t7525)
UTG (t5032)
UTG+1 (t4750)
MP1 (t15620)
MP2 (t10307)
MP3 (t6055)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t600</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t600, MP2 calls t600, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2000</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds, MP1 folds, MP2 calls t1400.

Flop: (t5400) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Of course after the flop I wish I just smooth called, but I can't see playing a hand like 10s this way from the SB.
Bet or check the flop? Checking gives away a monster, betting probably scares away everything but an overpair, which is unlikely considering the way he played it.

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Somewhat read dependent, but I'd check this hand to the riv if necessary &amp; pray villian improves.

RichC. 02-09-2006 03:39 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
C-bet the flop, about 1/2 the pot. Odds are that MP2 has an overpair he was trying to slowplay. If thats the case, he will more than likely call or push in an effort to take the pot down now. If he has 2 over cards, AK most likely then, he will think he is still good by maybe giving you credit for two over cards or small PP 99-77. Best scenario for you is if he had A6s and made a loose call, in which case all money is going in the middle now.

betgo 02-09-2006 03:48 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
Preflop, I would flat call. You have odds to play for a set. You may get some other good flops or situations. There is a raise and 2 callers. Do you think TT is that much better than their hands?

What do you do if the initial raiser pushes? If the initial raiser has a higher pp or AK, he will probably push and force you to a tough decision. If you flat call, you are ahead of AK and can stack the overpair if you make a set. Sklansky discussed this is TPFAP why it is often not good to raise or reraise with TT or AQs.

Normally, you slowplay a boat. However, HU the check may look suspicious.

How would you play AK? Look for an approach to playing AK other than pushing and try that here. Represent AK.

Spee 02-09-2006 03:59 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
Yeah totally.

The chances of your opponent having a T or 6 are very slim. You have to give them a chance to try and catch up.

Checking the flop is a must. Your opponent could easily put you on AQ or AK.

With a flop like this, your money is going to get made on the turn and river, or not at all.

The only way you get hurt here is if your opponent has JJ QQ KK or AA and is lucky enough to hit a 20-1 shot to beat you. Chances are they don't have AA or KK or they would have probably pushed preflop.

So they are probably on a smaller pair or big Ace. You have to check as long as possible to make them believe they are in the lead.

Had this same thing happen last night. Checked it all the way to the river. Unfortnately the turn and river cards were blanks and I didn't get any action when I bet the river.

Sometimes the flop can be TOO good!!

Requin 02-09-2006 04:13 PM

Re: So I Floped a boat...
 
Bet 2000, same as your preflop bet. And I prefer calling preflop.


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