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KyndGroove 01-17-2007 10:22 PM

BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
first hand at the table so no reads.

Limit: $0.25/$0.5
8 players
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Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, 4 folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (1.5BB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, SB folds.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets</font>, Hero?

Was bet/fold a reasonable line to take on the turn? I wanted to take the hand if no one wanted it. Also thought I had a chance of getting a bet out of a small PP or a six.

Is this a clear check/fold on the river? I was planning to check/call anything other than a Q, J, or 6.

I want to make sure I'm playing mediocre hands correctly so I appreciate any comments even if this seems like a fairly mundane hand.

Gib 01-17-2007 10:25 PM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
Check fold river.

unterfish 01-17-2007 10:39 PM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
I think this is not at all mundane.
Its a weird situation with 2 people.
But I would fold to the river bet: too many overcards.
I think you played it fine.

Boggy Depot 01-17-2007 11:17 PM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
"grunch"

Call. Villian may just have a pair of sixes and since you checked after taking a stab, he may be trying the same. If not, this is one of those times where paying for information is worth it. If he slow played top pair, limped in with a big pair, or hit the jack on the river, it would be worth one bet to see what he is willing to limp in with in fairly early position or see if he's capable of tricky play. Plus, he'll be less likely to bluff in the near future if he knows you'll make him show.

VirgilStarkwell 01-18-2007 01:52 AM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
grunch
yes, I'd c/f the river.

Point Blank 01-18-2007 02:06 AM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
[ QUOTE ]
"grunch"

Call. Villian may just have a pair of sixes and since you checked after taking a stab, he may be trying the same. If not, this is one of those times where paying for information is worth it. If he slow played top pair, limped in with a big pair, or hit the jack on the river, it would be worth one bet to see what he is willing to limp in with in fairly early position or see if he's capable of tricky play. Plus, he'll be less likely to bluff in the near future if he knows you'll make him show.

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i think this is OK since it's your first hand at the table (good way to find out who to 'value bet' later on)

threads13 01-18-2007 02:20 AM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
I check/fold. I don't think this is that great of a spot to be calling a river bet getting 4.5:1.

"Calling down for a read" is not a good reason to call here.

martybonus 01-18-2007 07:56 AM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
:grunch:

hrm, turn bet seems a bit donk-tastic but maybe that's a good thing. they might think you've got nothing when you do.

there are 3 cards on the board which beat your pair. I think this is an easy fold. it's a small pot and your holding is pretty crap.

Dam 01-18-2007 08:35 AM

Re: BB turns weak pair after flop is checked around
 
GRUNCH

Good post. Always a tricky situation, one that Ive found myself in a few times.

If I'm being honest, I call here - as I dont think anyone has hit, though the best thing to do with two overcards is probably fold.


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