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faded 01-15-2007 11:33 PM

another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
no reads, obv.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $200
UTG+1: $231.95
CO: $214
Button: $664.05
Hero: $198
BB: $229.25

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $8</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($18, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $13</font>, Button calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($44, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets $8... Hero...
</font>

i'm not very good when i turn the nuts oop. i find myself clueless in these spots.

comments on all streets appreciated, most interested in turn play.

jk3a 01-15-2007 11:50 PM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
just keep betting

Dread13 01-16-2007 12:25 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
In this situation just assume your opponent has a big ace and try to bloat the pot as much as possible so you can make a nice big river bet.

Betting the flop and check raising the turn can be a good play against aggresive players who will try to take the pot away from you, but I prefer to do this with a hand like TPTK. A check raise usually announces a big hand.

Bet like $20 on the flop, pot the turn and shove the river.

Yentz 01-16-2007 05:52 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
I think checking the turn is pretty bad, he can easily check behind with diamonds or a weak ace.

I would have bet a bit more preflop (10), and flop (3/4 pot maybe).

On the turn, I bet a full pot against an unknown, since I need to know he is aggressive before going for a checkraise or for indicing a raise with a smaller bet.

Borsig 01-16-2007 06:03 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
I would raise to 10 preflop, and bet 2/3 of the pot on the flop. I would raise turn to 34 because I think he will still be sticking around with a holding like AK,AQ,AT or maybe a flushdraw.

br.bm 01-16-2007 06:38 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
I like the flop bet, could be a little more though. 15 or 18 maybe.

If you turn a good hand and bet the flop keep betting. A c/r here screams: "I have a 3 or a boat!"
If I turn good and didn't bet the flop I c/r or c/c the turn and bet, c/r the river.

as played:
I dont know how to handle this weak bet from villian. We want to play a big pot so we got to bet. A c/r maybe throws him off. But I think he will check behind the river.
So I call and bet the river for value.

DandyJam 01-16-2007 06:54 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
Bet $30 on the turn giving him decent odds to draw to his flush, and he'll probably also call with a big ace. Less than a PSB gets it all in on the river.

ronaldann 01-16-2007 08:01 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
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just keep betting

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agreed. Absolutely no need to check turn at all. Keep firing and keep him guessing/drawing.

Borsig 01-16-2007 08:03 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
my bad.. he should not c/r just bet the turn 30ish..

ASmith84 01-16-2007 08:10 AM

Re: another TT hand, turn boat - 200nl
 
I bet more on the flop($15) and definitely keep value betting the turn($35). You want to get the most out of your hand if villain has AK/AQ/AJ/AT or if they are drawing to a diamond.

As played you put yourself in a hard position to get your stack in. I'd still go through with the check/raise to around 30 here.. if this donk(I still haven't figured out the thought process behind betting less than you did on the flop) won't call that, then I don't see them calling too many river value bets.


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