25k guaranteed Stars B vs B with OESD
 

Villian seemed solid, not a real chaser or move maker. Should I call flop or fold turn. Moving in on the flop would seem like I have a draw.

PokerStars Game #7935857118: Tournament #39825244, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2007/01/14 - 16:07:51 (ET)
Table '39825244 48' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: nyc2socal (3695 in chips)
Seat 2: joelnabs (6775 in chips)
Seat 3: moreno36 (585 in chips)
Seat 4: JockSc0tt (2430 in chips)
Seat 5: 72butsuited (3400 in chips)
Seat 6: soriano3 (4210 in chips)
Seat 7: garak48 (3405 in chips)
Seat 8: elcheapo23 (2540 in chips)
Seat 9: Krenobelo (1995 in chips)
garak48: posts small blind 75
elcheapo23: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to elcheapo23 [6c 4s]
Krenobelo: folds
nyc2socal: folds
joelnabs: folds
moreno36: folds
JockSc0tt: folds
72butsuited: folds
soriano3: folds
garak48: calls 75
elcheapo23: checks
*** FLOP *** [7c 5c 2d]
garak48: bets 300
elcheapo23: raises 900 to 1200
garak48: calls 900
*** TURN *** [7c 5c 2d] [Tc]
garak48: bets 900
elcheapo23: calls 900
*** RIVER *** [7c 5c 2d Tc] [Ac]
garak48: bets 1155 and is all-in
elcheapo23: calls 290 and is all-in

Re: 25k guaranteed Stars B vs B with OESD
 

I look at that play, and I have to wonder what you were trying to prove. You had 6 high, he probably had A7. I probably call the flop and fold the turn, why'd you go broke on a missed draw. You made that pot enormous when it never had to be.

Re: 25k guaranteed Stars B vs B with OESD
 

I don't know but call then fold seems pretty weak with an oesd and a random hand from the bb.

Re: 25k guaranteed Stars B vs B with OESD
 

If you want to play it aggressively, raise to t900 on the flop planning to push the turn if he checks to you (or take the free card, though i like pushing better). If he leads out on the turn like he did as played, then you fold. I don't mind just calling the flop, either.

As played, your pot-sized flop raise is too large. Since he can't expect you to fold the turn, you're only getting about 3.25 to 1 odds (3900 to 1200), and you may be drawing dead (and if not you likely only have 6 outs), you don't have odds to draw to your straight. Fold the turn.

Re: 25k guaranteed Stars B vs B with OESD
 

raise less on the flop (or just call), fold the turn

Re: 25k guaranteed Stars B vs B with OESD
 

You can raise less on the turn but it's not terrible.

garak's call flop and lead turn along with your read looks like 2 pair or posibly 7 with a big club. If you count only the 2 pairs you need odds to be under 32%. If you count the 7 with a big club need to be under 27.1%. Your implied odds with the extra 290 is 27.35%

edit: I made a mistake, implied odds are 23% 900/3890. Easy call.

Since it is still relatively early, I go ahead and gamble to try and get a big stack and also for image purposes.