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Live game. Assume everyone is standard live passive unless I give further information. UTG raises. I don't know anything about him except he's Asian and he just sat down, a couple hours after midnight. Three calls to me with T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the CO and I 3-bet. Button, who is too loose but is one the few players who tries to read hands quickly calls as does the BB, UTG 4-bets and everyone calls. Good game.

7 for 28 SBs. Flop is 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. UTG bets, two calls, I call, button raises, BB calls, UTG 3-bets, two calls, I fold.

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I like. Button could have something like 99 for retarded, but UTG almost certainly has you crushed, asian or not.

Sucks that you can't peel here, because 19:1 is a nice price. But I think the combo possiblity of the button capping and the T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dirtiness makes this a fold.

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Yup, looks like a good place to run and hide to me. Whas it the right fold?

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What do you guys think about raising the flop?

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I would raise the flop perhaps, but with so few outs and so much action in this loose game, your fold is correct.

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With a bet and two callers behind, all a raise there would do is give the donkey who is holding a 5 the right odds to keep chasing his three out straight draw.....

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What do you guys think about raising the flop?

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Button could have something like 99 for retarded,

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standard. Those who question if they should raise the flop should go back to microlimits.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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I like. Button could have something like 99 for retarded, but UTG almost certainly has you crushed, asian or not.

Sucks that you can't peel here, because 19:1 is a nice price. But I think the combo possiblity of the button capping and the T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dirtiness makes this a fold.

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what does asian has to do with anything? is there something i don't know?

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standard. Those who question if they should raise the flop should go back to microlimits.

TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

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lame