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ASmith84 01-14-2007 10:15 AM

(100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
Pulled this hand out of my last session, very hard spot IMO. Any decent bet seems to commit our stack.

Villain1 is 38/11/1.34
Villain2 is 43/11/2.5
both over 200 hands

Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00)
6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Hero(BB) ($128.90)
Seat 2: UTG ($171.25)
Seat 3: MP ($62.75)
Seat 4: CO ($11.50)
Seat 5: Villain1(BTN) ($155.76)
Seat 6: Villain2(SB) ($79.75)

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Villain2: posts the small blind $0.50
Hero: posts the big blind $1.00
--- DEALING POCKETS
Hero is dealt [A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
UTG: folds
MP: folds
CO: folds
Villain1: raises $2.00 to $3.00
Villain2: calls $2.50
Hero: raises $10.00 to $13.00
Villain1: calls $10.00
Villain2: calls $10.00

--- DEALING FLOP [Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] [Pot=$36]
Villain1: checks

Whats our line here?

jk3a 01-14-2007 10:55 AM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
just bet 25 and go from there, this does not commit you. I stack off against villian2 here, but probably not against 1.

ASmith84 01-14-2007 12:29 PM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
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just bet 25 and go from there, this does not commit you. I stack off against villian2 here, but probably not against 1.

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err yeah I meant committed vs villain2 [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img], I wouldn't have any second thoughts about folding if Villain1 pushed over my on this board.

ASmith84 01-15-2007 03:10 PM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
Bump for the afternoon members..

wtf5 01-15-2007 03:26 PM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
Ehm this is an awful board for A,K. check/call small flop bet.

Fold to turn bet.

Robert A. 01-15-2007 03:43 PM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
meh, a somwhat bad board for your hand. Betting 25 seems fine though , I dont really like check/calling in this spot

wtf5 01-15-2007 03:53 PM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
as i see it, you re-raise 4 times their inital raise preflop (make it a little bigger next time though!) and both call.

Against 2 people i dont see hands that you beat that will call a bet apart from a donk with A,Q. They both might have pairs and be playing for set value but they arent a threat and will probably check fold the turn.

ASmith84 01-15-2007 05:07 PM

Re: (100NL) 3bet AK.. TPTK vs 2 callers on scary flop
 
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as i see it, you re-raise 4 times their inital raise preflop (make it a little bigger next time though!) and both call.

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Are you thinking more around $15-$16 here? My usual 3bet line is 3x the original raisers bet, adding another 1x for every limper between us. I guess if theres a chance that both players might call(such as these 40/10s) I might as well throw on an extra bet.


Anyways for wondering minds, I bet $28 on the flop. Villain2 pushed over the top for around $36 more with AJo for the nut straight and Villain2 folded. While I probably should fold against a decent player, this guy had been donking it up which warranted a call IMO. Also he called my 3bet after Villain1 entered the pot giving him better pot odds to call with marginal hands.


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