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maddis 01-13-2007 02:48 PM

am I a winning player?
 
as the subject tells, I want your opinions if you think that i am a winning player based on the following informations:

I played 91 hu matches in the past week, i won 65 of them. so my winn:lose ratio is
1 : 3,0952. do you think that 91 matches are enough to say that i am a continous winning player, or is it possible that it was just luck that i won so many games (i think 3:1 is good, or isnt it?).

thanks for your thoughts,
Maddis

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(Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes in my posts, i am from germany.)

kolotoure 01-13-2007 03:01 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
It is more likely then not that you are a winning player

crzylgs 01-13-2007 04:47 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
Either way, congrats on the heater.

jay_shark 01-13-2007 05:33 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
If you win 71% of your games then you're a 2.5:1 favorite . You would have to play around 500 heads up matches to be close to your true win rate . This depends on how close you want your confidence level to be . If you really want to know how accurate you are , then please tell me your s.d over 91 matches and I can compute your confidence level . If you aren't sure of how to do this , let me know .

maddis 01-13-2007 06:05 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
hi, i am not sure what my s.d is!? can you explain me jay_shark?

jay_shark 01-13-2007 06:12 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
your standard deviation .

I'll create a post on this topic because it takes a bit of time to explain it . On the other hand , there are certain programs that can do this for you .

maddis 01-13-2007 06:23 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
i have no program installed atm, but i am thinking of buying pokertracker in the next time

jay_shark 01-13-2007 06:43 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
pokertracker should do the trick .

donkeykong2 01-13-2007 07:22 PM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
[ QUOTE ]
as the subject tells, I want your opinions if you think that i am a winning player based on the following informations:

I played 91 hu matches in the past week, i won 65 of them. so my winn:lose ratio is
1 : 3,0952. do you think that 91 matches are enough to say that i am a continous winning player, or is it possible that it was just luck that i won so many games (i think 3:1 is good, or isnt it?).

thanks for your thoughts,
Maddis

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(Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes in my posts, i am from germany.)

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u should be around +-10% of your real winrate after 100 games with 95% confidence... so i make a quick guess here:
winrate % is around 71 +-11% (cause u have less than 100 game)=60,81, quick guess for over 99% confidence is 55,86 (% winrate for sure).
so statistically your are almost surely an over 55 % winner.

APXG 01-15-2007 10:43 AM

Re: am I a winning player?
 
[ QUOTE ]
as the subject tells, I want your opinions if you think that i am a winning player based on the following informations:

I played 91 hu matches in the past week, i won 65 of them. so my winn:lose ratio is
1 : 3,0952. do you think that 91 matches are enough to say that i am a continous winning player, or is it possible that it was just luck that i won so many games (i think 3:1 is good, or isnt it?).

thanks for your thoughts,
Maddis

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(Sorry if there are some spelling mistakes in my posts, i am from germany.)

[/ QUOTE ]

In HU, I find that you can tell fairly accurately how good you are based on your comfort level / control of the match. If you have a clear plan for every opponent and are only taken out of your comfort zone by a few very good / ultraaggro opponents, then there's no way you are not a winner except perhaps at $550s+, but even there you can find plenty of fish to pad the win%.

Assuming you are a good player with clear gameplans against every opponent, there is essentially a distribution where a portion of them are complete fish with huge holes that you should be able to beat ~90%+ of the time, and then some players vs. whom your edge is very slight / marginal, and probably negative when not playing your A game. And then there are players in the middle with slight holes that are not big enough for you to withstand a very cold deck.

If you were to know roughly this distribution, you could fairly accurately determine your winrate without playing any statistically significant number of games.


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