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Entity 02-07-2006 02:00 AM

Hand against DeathDonkey
 
The BB in this hand seems tight enough not to be an overactive player. Overall I'd say he seems a little on the loose side, maybe a ~40% VPIPer. DeathDonkey has a reputation as a LAG (and his opening range here is usually accordingly wide) but is a good postflop player.

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (7 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (5 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: (4.50 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: (6.50 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 8.50 BB

Clarkmeister 02-07-2006 02:06 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
You've got to 3-bet this preflop unless it's live and you see him already folding.

Hobbs. 02-07-2006 02:08 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
how often is deathdonkey bluffing this river?

BigEndian 02-07-2006 02:09 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
Not sure what you're finding interesting about this hand. Could you drop a hint?

I think the river is a relatively straight-forward check-call but I could see the argument for betting if you think he'd be more likely to call with Ace-high than bet it. Is this what you're aiming at?

- Jim

Entity 02-07-2006 02:19 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
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You've got to 3-bet this preflop unless it's live and you see him already folding.

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Yeah, I agree with you on that. I'm not accustomed to 3-betting mid pockets from the SB against good players, but I think 77 is too much hand to pass up here.

PokerBob 02-07-2006 03:06 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
imo if you are calling the river, you are beat.

Entity 02-07-2006 03:11 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
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imo if you are calling the river, you are beat.

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What does he have? I don't think Chris bluffs all that often, but I really don't think he has a pair very often given his flop/turn play. So I felt like the river was a tossup but since I couldn't put him on many pairs I liked a check better.

PokerBob 02-07-2006 03:20 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
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imo if you are calling the river, you are beat.

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What does he have? I don't think Chris bluffs all that often, but I really don't think he has a pair very often given his flop/turn play. So I felt like the river was a tossup but since I couldn't put him on many pairs I liked a check better.

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i really dont know what he has, but i think he does NOT have an unimproved big ace. maybe a hand like A5s if you are lucky. maybe he has AA-KK and is just wating to bang you on the river. i dunno. i just feel like if you are going to put a bet into the pot on the river, the one that is placed has a greater expectation than one that is called. but i play bad. and i also 3bet this pf to get his donkeyass HU.

jason_t 02-07-2006 03:22 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
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imo if you are calling the river, you are beat.

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What does he have? I don't think Chris bluffs all that often, but I really don't think he has a pair very often given his flop/turn play. So I felt like the river was a tossup but since I couldn't put him on many pairs I liked a check better.

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i really dont know what he has, but i think he does NOT have an unimproved big ace. maybe a hand like A5s if you are lucky. maybe he has AA-KK and is just wating to bang you on the river. i dunno. i just feel like if you are going to put a bet into the pot on the river, the one that is placed has a greater expectation than one that is called. but i play bad. and i also 3bet this pf to get his donkeyass HU.

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What the hell are you hoping he'd call a river bet with?

PokerBob 02-07-2006 03:25 AM

Re: Hand against DeathDonkey
 
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imo if you are calling the river, you are beat.

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What does he have? I don't think Chris bluffs all that often, but I really don't think he has a pair very often given his flop/turn play. So I felt like the river was a tossup but since I couldn't put him on many pairs I liked a check better.

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i really dont know what he has, but i think he does NOT have an unimproved big ace. maybe a hand like A5s if you are lucky. maybe he has AA-KK and is just wating to bang you on the river. i dunno. i just feel like if you are going to put a bet into the pot on the river, the one that is placed has a greater expectation than one that is called. but i play bad. and i also 3bet this pf to get his donkeyass HU.

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What the hell are you hoping he'd call a river bet with?

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i never said i'd bet the river, just that IMO if he bets it, you're done.


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