Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

Hello,

Here's a hand I played yesterday (not able to get the real HH so no converter):

Blinds 3000-6000 ante 300

Approx. Stacks with 7 players left on final table

UTG 140 000
UTG + 1 to cutoff have between 50 and 80K
Button (Me) 110 000
SB: 65 000
BB: 55 000

Prize pool:

1st: 24000
2nd: 15000
3rd: 10900
4th: 7000 5th: 4600
6th: 3400
7th: 2400

UTg had been aggressive in the past, but since his chip lead got reduced, he had been pretty passive lately

The hand:

UTG raise to 18 000

All fold to me on the button;

I have KK

Whats my move?

Thanks for your help!

Sandrine

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

shove.

With any hand that the UTG raiser is calling a reraise to 50k he is also calling a shove

The fact that he raised UTG means that he will hopefully have a hand good enough to call your shove with, if you simply take the hand down preflop then congrats, you're the new chipleader

edit: misread stacks the first time around

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

Insta shove.
Making a standard raise in the 54,000-60,000 range commits over half your stack and you are not folding this hand here in this spot so shove.

You have a chance to increase your stack over 20% with the 18,000 that UTG put in plus the blinds and antes of 11,100.
If he has Aces oh well.

If he doesn't have Aces you have him beaten badly here.
Make him make a tough decision right now before the flop.

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

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make it 45-50k.

push any non ace flop.

Use your best judgement if an ace flops.

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If you make it 50K to go here you still have 55K back which is an M of 5 if Villain calls and an Ace hits the flop and you decide to bail here.

So raising to 50K gives Villain about 2.4-1 to call pre flop.
So the idea here is get info. on how much Villain likes his hand here without commiting your entire stack yet ?

I'm assuming if Villain shoves back it's an insta call anyway ?
Or do you really ever get away from this if Villain comes back over the top pre flop ?

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

I like the shove here for two reasons
1. you have a bit of an ackward stack size for a reraise other then a shove
2. a shove looks more like a steal (i.e. i'd rather win this right here) then a raise to 60K ish. think you'll potentially get a call from a wider range with a shove (tt+, ak, maybe ak and 99) by repping a potential ak or even aq hand with a shove.

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

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Village Idiot,
I was editing as you were replying. I read that hero was at 140k too. At 110k this is a shove. At 140k it actually might also be a shove because I am shoving a lot in this spot.

If I took my initial (incorrect) line then I would obviously be calling a 3 bet as folding KK preflop in a tournament that is not a satellite is 99.999% of the time the wrong play to make (note: it is 100% wrong in any tournament that is offered online.)

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

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Village Idiot,
I was editing as you were replying. I read that hero was at 140k too. At 110k this is a shove. At 140k it actually might also be a shove because I am shoving a lot in this spot.

If I took my initial (incorrect) line then I would obviously be calling a 3 bet as folding KK preflop in a tournament that is not a satellite is 99.999% of the time the wrong play to make (note: it is 100% wrong in any tournament that is offered online.)

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Cool.
When I read your post my first thougth was ok I'm not as good as Cornell, I need to think about this and ask why you don't shove here.
My game sucks and I'm trying to learn.

I agree with deeper stacks in relation to the blinds/antes that I like a reraise instead of a shove here.

Re: Help with Final Table hand On Mansion
 

All-inski