Zoo Ethics Question
 

If a site's T&C didn't expressly prohibit collusion...

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What about botting? Deposit fraud? Chip dumping? Chat scamming? PokerEdge? HUDs? etc.

My point is...

What's really ethical in online poker? Is it up to the players or the sites to determine?

Re: Zoo Ethics Question
 

Someone has to much time on their hands!

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Poker is a game pitting individuals against each other (except on some weird TV tournaments). Therefore anything that one can do FOR ONESELF is fair game unless otherwise forbidden.

There may be some debate on the grey areas, but collusion is just downright cheating. End of.

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I would love to hear the thoughts of the nameless cowards who think colluding is ok.

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What about botting? Deposit fraud? Chip dumping? Chat scamming? PokerEdge? HUDs? etc.

My point is...

What's really ethical in online poker? Is it up to the players or the sites to determine?

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You mention HUDs, I don't think it is unethical to use these at a site when the site expressively states that these are OK, If a site said, hey you can use bots here, then I would have no problem whatsoever with people using bots at that site, though I wouldn't play at that site.

If a T&C doesn't seem up to your standards, don't play at that site.

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If a T&C doesn't seem up to your standards, don't play at that site.

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The reason I asked is because I play on Full Tilt, but can't find any mention of bots or collusion being prohibited. I've looked through both the Terms & Conditions and the Site Rules, but can't find the stipulations. Prohibited software isn't mentioned either.

Now...FT's reps will post on here about what is OK and what isn't, and the site will tell you what's unethical ONLY if you email or call them...but the fact that nothing's listed on the website is a bit unsettling IMO.

It's also possible that everything is listed when you install the software. If that's the case, then I (and many others) have probably overlooked them.

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if you cant get in trouble for something its allowed.

if i wouldnt get in trouble for something that would be profitable i would do it.

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What do you mean by 'OK' in the poll? Ethically I find collusion wrong but unless stated otherwise legally there's nothing wrong with it.

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What do you mean by 'OK' in the poll? Ethically I find collusion wrong but unless stated otherwise legally there's nothing wrong with it.

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What I meant by 'OK' was that if a site didn't prohibit collusion in their T&C, would you collude? Would you have a problem with others colluding?