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Erdricks Sword 12-18-2006 01:11 PM

Do you call on the first hand? $33+1.50 hu turbo
 
First hand on stars, blinds 10/20. I am on the bb w/ AJs. Villain limps. I raise to 80. Villain then min. rr 60 to 140. I call and the flop comes J,5,2 rainbow. I check, and he shoves quickly. I am always leery of the limp/rr play and bc it was the first hand I folded. Looking back, I almost want to call. Limp/rr plays usually mean AA,KK, QQ, or AK. The only hand I see him pushing in on is AK. Why not milk me for a little more if he had one of the big 3 hands? It was the perfect flop to do so. Maybe I should have led out on the flop to get a reaction from him. How many of you lead out or check? How many of you make this call on the flop? As always, all analysis is appreciated.

omgwtfnoway 12-18-2006 08:11 PM

Re: Do you call on the first hand? $33+1.50 hu turbo
 
if your opponent is a thinking player there's no way this is a value shove, your range just doesn't connect with that board often enough or hard enough to call his shove. i agree that he's probably not shoving AA KK or QQ in that spot for that reason but i also think you've narrowed his range too far. i don't know how fishy the $33s are but i frequently get l/rr by small pocket pairs and random Ax like A3s. so, while i can't blame you for folding the first hand without a read i think i would have called.

Erdricks Sword 12-18-2006 08:40 PM

Re: Do you call on the first hand? $33+1.50 hu turbo
 
Thanks for the input. I ended up winning the match so I guess it worked out for the best. Thinking back though, I believe the right move was to call

slimbob 12-18-2006 10:33 PM

Re: Do you call on the first hand? $33+1.50 hu turbo
 
His likely holdings are AK, a pair below JJ but no set or air.

Its the first hand and hes likely to make a move. So you are almost always ahead here.

He dont shove a set or overpair because its very unlikely to get called. If he had a strong hand he slowplay or bet the pot on flop.

After your check it doesnt make sense to shove with a stronger hand so this makes the call even easier.

This is a very easy call.


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