NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

Villain's 14th hand at table, no previous hands against him.

At this table he has played one hand: he limped PF and bet at T66 flop (won pot). I have raised three pots, including a reraise on teh flop and turn of one hand, taking down a $19 pot. I raise preflop the next hand but have not played a hand in the orbit since.

1. After his check/call on flop I put him on a mid pair or two Broadways, possibly a weaker suited Ace. Is this a reasonable range?
2. What is my plan on the turn and river if we get there?

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25./$0.50.
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($6, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero ?

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

IMO you are often behind to a bigger PP on the flop.
This turn seems to be OK since what would someone limp UTG that has you beat but AA. I dont think KK gets limped UTG too often but possible.
I would check the turn and call smallish river bet (mabye 2-3$ if you want)- pot control !!

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

Pot control check like mad.

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

check behind, value bet river.

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Forgot to include stack sizes originally. Here's the river:

Ultimate Bet
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25./$0.50.
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $20.05
UTG+1: $23
Hero: $81.95
Button: $16.85
SB: $11.70
BB: $49.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($2, 4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2</font>, SB folds, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($6, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($6, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $4</font>, Hero ?

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

pot control is betting 4 on the turn instead of 6.

Do some more pot control on the river after the draw has missed if you like.

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

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pot control is betting 4 on the turn instead of 6.

Do some more pot control on the river after the draw has missed if you like.

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No, no it's not. Building pots with marginal hands when wa/wb is not a good idea.

Call River.

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

There are only 2 Aces left in the deck and it seems unlikely given action that anyone has one. Just because you can imagine that someone might have a better hand doesn't make you WA/WB.

The most likely villian hands are club draws with suited connecters and medium PPs. Charge them for the river, and stop seeing slowplayed monsters.

If he's got an A, he'll let you know on the turn when you bet, and you will lose exactly the same as you would on the river, but with the added benefit of also charging worse hands to draw.

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

we're behind most kings too and I don't see many drawing hands against us. I check the turn behind.

Re: NL50 No read vs UTG Limper
 

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There are only 2 Aces left in the deck and it seems unlikely given action that anyone has one

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where did you get that from? Everyone slow plays an A here

fold pf K7 is trash, check everything, keep this pot small. I'd be inclined to c/f actually. As played fold river.