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Grandezza 12-15-2006 08:00 AM

2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
PFR is 13/12/4.75 over 320ish hands
UTG is 56/1/0.5 over 25

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($400)</font>
BB ($1055.86)
<font color="#C00000">UTG ($484.40)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP ($563.40)</font>
CO ($974.61)
Button ($209)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
UTG calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $20</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero (poster) calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($64) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $45</font>, UTG calls $45, MP calls $45.

Turn: ($199) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $140</font>.

Final Pot: $339

luckychewy 12-15-2006 08:01 AM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
what??

Grandezza 12-15-2006 08:02 AM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
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what??

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I put the PFR on an overpair, and utg seems donkish could have any pair

AlwaysAir 12-15-2006 08:23 AM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
3b pf make it easier on yourself kid

Grandezza 12-15-2006 08:27 AM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
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3b pf make it easier on yourself kid

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But PFR is a bit nitty, wont it just fold out the hands i beat and Ill end up playing a big pot OOP with a marginal hand?

Morrek 12-15-2006 09:07 AM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
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3b pf make it easier on yourself kid

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But PFR is a bit nitty, wont it just fold out the hands i beat and Ill end up playing a big pot OOP with a marginal hand?

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JJ is a premium hand, even if villain is 12% pfr or w/e.

Gary Stevenson 12-15-2006 09:42 AM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
he could easily be isolating the donk limper with a very marginal hand

JackAll 12-15-2006 01:46 PM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
[ QUOTE ]
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3b pf make it easier on yourself kid

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But PFR is a bit nitty, wont it just fold out the hands i beat and Ill end up playing a big pot OOP with a marginal hand?

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Nitty = low pfr. 12% isn't that low.

12% means he raises all pairs, AK/AQ and a few more in position. 3-betting pf gives info, gets value from worse hands, and makes it hu for you so you don't have this mess you're in.

jambon 12-15-2006 02:57 PM

Re: 2/4: JJ Turn bluff
 
well i liked ur line, got me to fold AA this time.. reraise preflop and ur in trouble this time, but against my range, especially with the donk limper, JJ is a 3bet pre most of the time. 320 hands isnt many to have on sum1 btw [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
what do ppl think of folding AA to OPs line?


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