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NWA1103 12-14-2006 07:34 PM

QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
I was 4 tabling $2/4 NL and the Villain was playing at all my tables. I had noticed that the Villain was a good LAG player, who raised many pots preflop, especially with position. I started re-popping him preflop with hands like AJ, AK, JJ, and even KQ suited preflop. Within 15 minutes, I had noticed that I had already re-potted him 6 times and he had folded every time.

With this in mind, I realized that I needed to tighten up my re-pop hand range to only the premiums (AK, and >JJ, because I knew he would start playing back at me. So, I pick up QQ and re-pop him yet again. This time he pushes all-in on me... I felt like he would make this play with a reasonably wide range of holdings, as it was likely to suspect that I may be repop stealing him. Anyways, I make the call after a few seconds of making sure that I am right in thinking that I haven't overlooked how likely it is that he has AA/KK. I decide that he probably has AK and the odds of him have AA/KK is less than 5 percent.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
4 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $840.20
Hero: $346
SB: $396
BB: $882

Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is Button with Qs Qd
UTG raises to $14, Hero raises to $48, 2 folds, UTG raises all-in $840.2, Hero calls all-in $298.
Uncalled bets: $494.2 returned to UTG.

Flop: 8d Kh Ah (Main pot: $698)


Turn: 7c


River: 6s


I will post his hand in a little later.

AlwaysAir 12-14-2006 07:36 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
I tend to give UTG raises a tad more respect - especialy when he 4bets. If he folded vs all those pushes maybe he was waiting for a hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] - IMO very marginal, if it was vs OTB/CO raise I'd like it better

yvesaint 12-14-2006 07:37 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I tend to give UTG raises a tad more respect - especialy when he 4bets. If he folded vs all those pushes maybe he was waiting for a hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] - IMO very marginal, if it was vs OTB/CO raise I'd like it better

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its 4handed

looks fine to me, only if u 3bet w/some sort of regularity tho

PatInTheHat 12-14-2006 07:37 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
I fold unless i've seen villian make this play before. Reload PF.

AlwaysAir 12-14-2006 07:39 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I tend to give UTG raises a tad more respect - especialy when he 4bets. If he folded vs all those pushes maybe he was waiting for a hand [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] - IMO very marginal, if it was vs OTB/CO raise I'd like it better

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its 4handed

looks fine to me, only if u 3bet w/some sort of regularity tho

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hmm your right in that case his shoving range might extend to TT/JJ - it's not bad

Kilillan 12-14-2006 07:59 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
I'm pretty sure I was the villain

NWA1103 12-14-2006 08:09 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'm pretty sure I was the villain

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Are you cosignalpha? Am I right in thinking you are tired of my re-raises and might be pushing a wide range?

frozzor 12-14-2006 08:10 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
ez call

fsista 12-14-2006 08:11 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
FOOOOLD.

Jamougha 12-14-2006 08:41 PM

Re: QQ Facing a 4-Bet Push - Call or Fold?
 
Given your read this is very standard.


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