Ace/rag on the button
 

In a bit of a downswing (hope it's just a downswing [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] ), so looking a bit harder at my hands

SB is terrible. He literally plays every hand and switches between calling station and maniac.
BB has done nothing unusual yet.

The table seems quite tight and rock like. If it wasn't for SB I would probably move, and am still considering it, as I don't have position on him.

Party Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
10 players
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Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
7 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero ...

Preflop raise was hoping to either get the blinds (unlikely), or get heads up with SB.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

eee ... tight table with one retard on your left = change tables

on the flop, I think I might just call ... if SB has an ace he isn't folding - if SB has two random cards he may call (if he hits, it's unlikely to change much)

if you plan on staying at the table I might be inclined to call BB's turn donk ... if you aren't, then this is an easy fold

what info do you have on BB ... tight loose - aggressive??

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

No reads on BB in that he hasn't done anything to catch my eye. So take that as straight forward, not unusually aggressive, I guess. But, I haven't seen enough hands to say that with any certainty.

Sorry, don't have PT with me right now, so can't give you any stats.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

I go with a call-call-call line here, usually.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

*grunch*

What is your table image here? Do you steal a lot. Or are you passive?
BB has something on this flop. Maybe just a king and he suspects a steal, but he could easily have you dominated.
I would call here and check or call river.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

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I go with a call-call-call line here, usually.

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Yeah, you really only beat a complete bluff on the flop.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

yeah, call call call gets max value from bluffs, bad players, etc, when we're ahead, and loses min when we're behind.

xhad, i disagree that we only beat a bluff on the flop. in a blind battle i am betting any pair here, a draw, pock pairs, whatever, a solid amount of the time, and bluffing some too. the turn bet is a little odd but i'd still call down.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

If you give BB credit for playing OK don't we have to think he is ahead of top pair since he bet into aggrssion on this board? If so what can we draw here that wins? An ace MIGHT buy us a tie. A five may alrady be dead to 2 pair although there is a chance he would have 2 pair w/0 aces. I dont see a turn call. I don't think this wins veryoften from here. IMO it is a fold.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

im in the call/call camp so far.

Re: Ace/rag on the button
 

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yeah, call call call gets max value from bluffs, bad players, etc, when we're ahead, and loses min when we're behind.

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May I add that it also give us a better chance of keeping SB in the pot.