Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

[Hand 1]
No reads at all on guy raising me.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP ($131.80)
Hero ($413.70)
SB ($195)
BB ($200)
UTG ($286.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $30</font>, UTG folds, Hero...?
-I dont like calling here, I dont think its +EV. If an ace or king flops I might not get anymoney out of him etc. So Personally I think its push/fold.
1.) What if the person is a huge NIT. Does a fold sound good?
2.) If he 3bes alot. How does an all in sound?
3.) Against the standard 200nl player without reads what do you do here?...

[Hand 2]

Villan is tupacia. I think hes a 2p2.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($240.50)
Hero ($381.65)
UTG ($203.20)
MP ($255.10)
Button ($244.85)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25</font>, SB calls $17.

Flop: ($50) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero...?
-Obviously not a good flop at all. Check/fold here 80+ percent of time right?


[Hand 3]
-Villan is murph0511. I have played an incredible amount with this guy (mainly at 100nl) and respect his game overall. He has been 3betting me alot this session.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($222.80)
SB ($212.15)
BB ($310.75)
UTG ($586.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $28</font>, Hero folds.

-In general I think playing against someone who 3bets and will c/b flops is incredibly hard. I have tried 4betting light and I think it sucks... I have tried calling and making a move on any flop and my results suck. Bottom line...4betting here seems baad and so does flat calling especially since I'd be OOP.
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On a side note finally got a avatar for 2p2. Not really original but in light of the spears crotch shot, its cool.

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

hand 1-

1. if hes a nit, easy fold.
2. if he 3 bets a lot, make it 80 and push any flop.
3. standard 200NL player i like the 4 bet.

hand 2-

i still bet it he could have pocket pairs or other hands that will have missed this flop/ not able tocall bets.

hand 3-

standard fold

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

1. against a nit i fold. i dont think folding is ever really the best play here, since we have position here. looking at the raise size (not a min raise) i'd guess villain is ok and thus raising a range wider than AA/KK here. But lately I've shoved into AA/KK too much and I think i'd save the shove for a better spot,like a time when we have a read.

2. this flop isn't great for our hand but pretty good for our range, no? if he's 2p2 he's prob raising/calling lightly in the SB v BB battle so might have a smaller PP, SC, AXs, etc. I'm not too sure about his pf game but i'm guessing he's making another raise w/ AK/JJ/QQ/KK/AA in a blind battle here. Regardless I think i'd cbet this about 1/2 the time depending on how the session/flop is going.

3. technically we're in position but since we're going to be facing a bet nearly 100% of the time i think it's important that you realize we're essentially OOP. I think a larger 4bet here is fine, or a fold. I'm not a huge fan of calling because he prob has a weak hand here often enough that our ev from flopping a set isn't too high.

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

In hand 3, am i the only one who likes calling? You don't exactly have to flop a set to work yourself out of this one especially since we have the button. I say in some spots especially against regulars this can be a "call and play poker" spot.

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

jmx,

IMO doing this with a pocket pair limits your options.

i much prefer having a suited connector or AXs when im gonna take a flop w/o proper odds with the plan of "playing some poker."

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

if your 'playing poker' is raising the flop to generate a fold 66=xx. there aren't a lot of flop/turn/river combos i want to be calling bets on versus an aggressive player who could have a lot of different hands

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

Hand 1) is at least a call in position. If he's a nit you can push/fold.

Hand 2) your comments make no sense. Seriously, what flops that do not contain a 6 are good for you once he calls preflop? YOU'RE BLUFFING. This flop is as good as most of them. Bet it.

Hand 3 is a fold unless he 3-bets only with very big hands and you have a read that he goes broke with them very often.

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

nothing wrong with calling in hand one, others look okay i guess

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

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Hand 1) is at least a call in position. If he's a nit you can push/fold.

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Can you elaborate on why you call. I dont like the option at all but I may be wrong. Lets say he has JJ/QQ/KK when an ace flops he will not lose his whole stack. I may be wrong, but I'd like to think its push/fold.


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Hand 2) your comments make no sense. Seriously, what flops that do not contain a 6 are good for you once he calls preflop? YOU'RE BLUFFING. This flop is as good as most of them. Bet it.


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wtf, I posted it because the texture is horrible and unlike most flops I c/b when I 3bet.

Re: Common Situations at 200nl (pp3)
 

with regards to AK,

if you just call and the A or K falls, you win very little money, or if you are getting your stack in, your hand is pretty much face up and your opponent will have you beat quite often.