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RedBaron__ 11-30-2006 12:47 PM

AT hand 2/4
 
Do you fold it here on the turn ? What is the most likely holding for the Villain ?

The villain is 50/18/0.87 over 62 hands, no other reads yet.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero ?

PokerSparky 11-30-2006 12:59 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
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Do you fold it here on the turn ?

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Yes.

Jiggymike 11-30-2006 02:16 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
I would c/f that turn probably but a b/f might be better. However I assume he is loose and unaggressive so will probably not bluff here and you can get away with c/f...against an aggressive player this is an easy b/f.

aargh57 11-30-2006 02:24 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
I fold the turn. In fact I think I probably c/f the turn. You don't have anything and the pot is small. It's probably going to cost you 2 bets to see a showdown and your outs aren't all that clean. As far as what a 50 VPIP villain could have here, your guess is as good as mine. Could have a flush draw, TP, 2 pair, set, A high, or even shlock like 45 or 67.

TomBrooks 11-30-2006 02:24 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Do you fold it here on the turn ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes.

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Not just yes--hell yes.

wackjob 11-30-2006 02:40 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
I wouldn't have bothered to bet the turn for them.

danzasmack 11-30-2006 02:49 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
I'm pretty sure at this level calling the flop and folding the turn is a beloved line of donkeys like this so I don't think the turn bet is bad.

But a fold is yahtzee!

gopnik 11-30-2006 03:18 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
[ QUOTE ]
Do you fold it here on the turn ? What is the most likely holding for the Villain ?

The villain is 50/18/0.87 over 62 hands, no other reads yet.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, Button calls, BB folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises</font>, Hero ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Easy fold for me. He's not aggressive enough to push a draw here. Plus he called you on the dry flop which means he probably has a piece.

bbbushu 11-30-2006 04:59 PM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
the flop is extremely dry, especially for a cold-calling hand so i think the turn follow-up is fine. it's not often that a preflop cold-caller is the type to factor metagame into their decisions so i doubt they're peeling on the flop to insulate themselves from unabated aggression (here and on later hands). considering that, it looks like a pretty standard bet/fold to me (although i'm still slow to detect a proper use of this play, so be forewarned, of course).

sucks to lose to a small set, i guess...

bbbushu

RedBaron__ 12-01-2006 02:41 AM

Re: AT hand 2/4
 
When I reviewed the hands I thought I should have folded this to turn raise.

In reality I did call down the turn raise. River was a blank and was checked through. Villain showed AJo UI.


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