Two Plus Two Newer Archives

Two Plus Two Newer Archives (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/index.php)
-   Special Sklansky Forum (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76)
-   -   A Decision Making Error - Easy Question (http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=271241)

David Sklansky 11-29-2006 08:44 PM

A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
This is the first of several stories I plan to tell about the time I served as Bob Stupak's Resident Wizard at Vegas World. It has implications for many situations.

Upon checking in to the hotel under his package deal the guest had a choice among five "gifts". They cost Bob about twenty bucks though he placed a $200 or so retail value on them.

One of the gifts became unavailable to him. So he had to find a replacement He had it narrowed down to two possibilities. To make his decision he conducted an experiment where only those two gifts were offerred to about a thousand patrons. About 60% picked gift A. So Bob was about to choose that to be added to the five gift menu. I knew what the two candidate gifts were and insisted that he picked the wrong one. (To tell you what the gifts were would be too much of a hint.) He asked how I could possibly go against the statistical evidence. To which I replied what?

stinkypete 11-29-2006 08:48 PM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
when there's 2: 60% prefer A, 40% prefer B
when there's 3: 0% prefer A, 40% prefer B, 60% prefer C

ie. it depends on what the other gifts are.

stinkypete 11-29-2006 08:57 PM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
and to make it more intuitive, think of it this way:

gift B (40%) might be something that 80% of all women want, but something that 0% of men want.

so 20% of women choose gift A, and 100% of men are forced to choose gift A.

it's easy to see that gift B could be more popular than gift A out of a larger selection of gifts.

Pokerlicious 11-29-2006 08:58 PM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
It would seem you would want to add the less popular gift so that the guests would be more likely to select each gift in an equal amount (thus reducing the chance of unavailability and possibly simplifing reordering if multiple items could be reordered at once).

Alternatively, if for some reason the replacement gifts cost Stupak more than the other four, you would prefer a less popular addition to reduce your costs.

El Diablo 11-29-2006 09:12 PM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
DS,

"Beat the Dealer is a good book, Bob, but I don't think you want to be giving it out to your guests as a welcome gift!"

Piers 11-29-2006 09:34 PM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
Yes.

The combination of the other four gifts dominated the 60% one to a greater degree thant the 40% one.

Xhad 11-29-2006 09:46 PM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
Some people seem to have missed this:

[ QUOTE ]
To make his decision he conducted an experiment where only those two gifts were offerred to about a thousand patrons.

[/ QUOTE ]

One possibility that comes to mind is that the "favorite" is similar to one of the other gifts while the "underdog" is something completely different, resulting in the "favorite" often getting passed over for one of the other gifts (or reducing the likilihood that the similar gift is chosen).

starbird 11-30-2006 09:22 AM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
The people who prefer gift B prefer it by a large margin, so that the aggregate utility of the hotel guests is higher with B in the mix.

KUJustin 11-30-2006 10:03 AM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
[ QUOTE ]
The people who prefer gift B prefer it by a large margin, so that the aggregate utility of the hotel guests is higher with B in the mix.

[/ QUOTE ]

This was my first thought. Adding that gift A is only slighly preferred by those who chose it.

There are dozens of potential answers to this I think though many go outside the obvious intent of the question (for instance gift A is illegal, or somehow racist, or dangerous, etc).

The Beating the Dealer comment was a joke, but there are concievably gifts that would hurt the casino in some way (maybe a travel guide that doesn't rate your casino well, though he's likely not dumb enough to consider that in the first place).

mornelth 11-30-2006 10:15 AM

Re: A Decision Making Error - Easy Question
 
POG forum has "Situational puzzle" games - a game where little information is offered in the beginning and participants ask questions trying to recreate the full sequence of events or whatever. The person who starts the game thread answers all questions with pretty much "Yes", "No" or "not relevant") (but is not LIMITED TO these anwers).

With that said -

- Did the more popular gift have any negative expectation (directl or indirect) on the profit of the establishment (i.e. "Beat the dealer", guide favoring other establishments, tickets to a show in another establishment, etc.)
- Did both gifts cost him the same?
- Does EVERY visitor to the establishment ALWAYS choses to take a gift or do some decline?

That's a good start, I think...


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:51 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.