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Scotch78 11-29-2006 02:36 AM

(PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
MP is very loose, and not particularly trustworthy. That is to say, he's not really aggressive, but his bets/raises are more likely to mean a semi-bluff or overplayed made hand. I have a decent read on him and am looking for extra pots to get involved in.

However, the rest of the table is not-tight to loose, and fairly aggressive, so I probably don't get an isolation out of the pre-flop raise very often.

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls, Hero folds.

River: (10.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, MP calls.

Final Pot: 12.25 BB

Scott

counterspell 11-29-2006 02:43 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
i'd like more information on the button. if he is really LAGgy you should fold to the flop donk.

Scotch78 11-29-2006 02:49 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
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i'd like more information on the button. if he is really LAGgy you should fold to the flop donk.

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Unfortunately, I didn't have much of a read on him. He was definitely loose, probably 50%+ VP$IP, and aggressive, but I didn't have a solid read on his aggression before this hand.

Scott

edit: There were very few raised pots pre-flop, so I didn't really have a handle on anyone's cold-calling ranges yet.

bbbushu 11-29-2006 03:11 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
i guess it looks fine to me. it's late, though, and i'm having trouble concentrating.

bbbushu

wackjob 11-29-2006 03:39 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
I hate your flop raise. I'm not sure what the better play is, possibly calling or folding, but it just is worthless except to spew your chips around.

bbbushu 11-29-2006 03:47 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
wackjob,

i agree that the raise looks spewy but for some reason i don't wanna fold and i feel like calling prices BT in no matter what they hold.

bbbushu

wackjob 11-29-2006 04:23 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
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but for some reason i don't wanna fold

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a distinct dislike of $$$?

bbbushu 11-29-2006 04:41 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
jeez that's helpful!

at least advocate and defend the fold before you go pointing fingers [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

bbbushu

bbbushu 11-29-2006 04:43 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
btw, i think this hand would look a lot different if it were cut off right after MP's donk...

bbbushu

Scotch78 11-29-2006 08:06 AM

Re: (PS $.50/$1): A8o against multiple LAGs
 
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i agree that the raise looks spewy but for some reason i don't wanna fold and i feel like calling prices BT in no matter what they hold.

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That was more or less my thought process. I was completely confident that I had enough equity against the donkey's range to continue, but I had no idea where I stood in relation to the guy behind me and wanted him out of the hand--or at least wanted an idea whether I was chasing him. I was actually concerned most about the pre-flop raise.

Scott


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