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Esmerelda 11-27-2006 11:38 AM

Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
I thought I would try a blind steal.
Anything you would do differently on the flop?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.10
UTG+1: $10
MP1: $4.45
MP2: $9.75
CO: $9.70
hero: $12.15
SB: $12.95
BB: $7.55

Pre-flop: (8 players) hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $0.4</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($1.2, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $0.8</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $3.6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $12.55</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero calls all-in $8.15</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.8 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: $14.55

kitaristi0 11-27-2006 11:44 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
I probably just call the flop. No one ever folds an ace.

SykoraG 11-27-2006 11:46 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
well played

gimmetheloot 11-27-2006 11:47 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
this is goot.

limit refugee 11-27-2006 11:49 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
Perfect, just make that blind steal standard.

suited89 11-27-2006 11:50 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
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I probably just call the flop. No one ever folds an ace.

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If no one is folding the ace, don't we want to get as much money in as we can on the flop since we have equity edge over any ace?

gimmetheloot 11-27-2006 11:51 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
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I probably just call the flop. No one ever folds an ace.

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If no one is folding the ace, don't we want to get as much money in as we can on the flop since we have equity edge over any ace?

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Not necessarily. if we can get the money in on the turn with 90%+ equity, calling is much better.

suited89 11-27-2006 11:59 AM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
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Not necessarily. if we can get the money in on the turn with 90%+ equity, calling is much better.

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I don't think we have 90% equity here. I agree that if we are that far ahead we want to make sure we get more of villains stack on later streets, but since we are probably only ahead by a little, we would make most if we were able to fold the villains out.

Plus I think if we hit any of our cards, our action might be scared away.

Jouster777 11-27-2006 12:09 PM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
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Not necessarily. if we can get the money in on the turn with 90%+ equity, calling is much better.

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I don't think we have 90% equity here. I agree that if we are that far ahead we want to make sure we get more of villains stack on later streets, but since we are probably only ahead by a little, we would make most if we were able to fold the villains out.

Plus I think if we hit any of our cards, our action might be scared away.

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He means see a cheap turn and get it in when we hit one of our outs (at which point we will have 90% equity).

I disagree that an A won't fold though. OP was the PFR'er and his bet looks a lot like AK/AQ. Plenty of villains will fold a weaker A there so I like OP's line here plus we buy a free turn the majority of the time. Getting RR'd sucks and means a call initially would have been better....but we can't expect a RR in general.

dodgybob 11-27-2006 12:19 PM

Re: Blind steal turns into monster draw, Raise flop?
 
Standard. Well played.


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