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sneaker 11-18-2006 09:45 AM

all spades on flop, top pair + nut flush draw, all in reraise mistake?
 
Average opponent. My push looks like flush draw, but I have top pair top kicker too. Thought I get opponent to call with a Jack and weaker kicker. If his hand is better I still have nut flush draw. Or should I just call or make a smaller reraise?

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $93
UTG+1: $187.40
CO: $55.14
Button: $95.35
SB: $45.60
Hero: $95.71

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with :as :jd
2 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: :8s :js :5s ($4, 4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO checks, [color=#cc0000]Button bets $3</font>, SB folds, [color=#cc0000]Hero raises all-in $94.71</font>, CO folds, [color=#cc0000]Button calls all-in $91.35</font>.
Uncalled bets: $0.36 returned to Hero.

Turn: :2h ($192.7, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $192.7)


River: :7d ($192.7, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: $192.7)


Results:
Final pot: $192.7

JackAll 11-18-2006 10:37 AM

Re: all spades on flop, top pair + nut flush draw, all in reraise mist
 
Slow playing is always bad at small stakes.

I raise pf here, but many don't.

As played though, lead the flop. It's a limped pot, so maybe no one will even bet and you get no value from your huge hand. C/r a-i is not good at all. It has too much FE for hands you beat. The way you played it, you're turning your hand into a bluff when you actually have a pretty damn good hand. With ur c/r all-in, only hands that beat you stay in and you fold out worse hands.

Vinny80 11-18-2006 10:41 AM

Re: all spades on flop, top pair + nut flush draw, all in reraise mist
 
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C/r a-i is not good at all. It has too much FE for hands you beat.

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Exaclty... getting your money in wasn't such a big mistake, but the way you did it was. Go for the bet-3bet allin. At least, if villain folds to your 3bet, there will be some dead money in the pot at this point. Villain may also just call which will give you a cheap turn card to figure out where you stand.

amoeba 11-18-2006 10:59 AM

Re: all spades on flop, top pair + nut flush draw, all in reraise mist
 
don't go broke in limped pot.

bet the flop, call a raise.

no need to go crazy with top pair and the nut draw as you don't really mind seeing more cards.

the way you played your hand is ok in a raised HU pot but not here IMO.


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