Ethics of Shortstacking the 2k
 

Wondering what you guys think of this. I know alot of people who are 2k regulars hate people who do this (buying in for 400 and cashing out when you double up, then buying in short again) but it is very profitable. It is so easy to wait for a good hand like AQ+ 99+ or even 77 in some spots and move in on a lag player or move in when someone raises and gets a few loose callers.

Is this ethical? I know its poker and you should do whatever you want within the rules of the game, but I feel bad screwing up the game for the guys who are trying to play normal 100bb+ poker. Id like to hear some opinions.

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Never played anything near that limit so can't comment on that level.

I depsize when players come to the 100NL table with $20. Then preflop fold, fold, fold, ....... ALL-IN. Fold ..... ALL-IN.
You've raised up your AK, got one caller, then some short stacked jackass in the blinds always wants to make it a race of it with his 55. I guess they prefer poker over bingo.

But I put the blame solely on the poker site. The buy in limits should be 50-100BB. Mabey minimum 40x bb.

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Ask the guys in the high stakes NL forum. I don't think they'd mind. There's nothing unethical about it. But you won't be able to make money in the long run doing this.

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Ask the guys in the high stakes NL forum. I don't think they'd mind. There's nothing unethical about it. But you won't be able to make money in the long run doing this.

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You would be amazed at some of the stuff they paid me off with. One CR on the turn got called by A6 for no pair and no draw. My trips won. Other times, they pay off with KQ allin preflop against my KK . Im not a 100nl shortstack player like the one described above. Moving in with 55 wasnt what I was doing, although, I did with 77 once when there was going to be my stack size in dead money. I think it is profitable long term as long as you have good game selection and a good understanding of preflop theory. Sklansky could kill those games.

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Ask the guys in the high stakes NL forum. I don't think they'd mind. There's nothing unethical about it. But you won't be able to make money in the long run doing this.

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Read GSIH, and search for the previous threads on "short stacked NL". There is not much question that this is profitable in most games when executed correctly.

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GHIS, what does this stand for

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Interesting. But now that I think about it you're probably right. If the game features routine raises to half your stack many players will be happy to call off $400 to see a flop vs. with a bad hand to get a crack at someone else with a deeper stack.

Anyway thanks for the correction. I'll be interested to see the results.

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GHIS, what does this stand for

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Getting Holdem in Started

Re: Ethics of Shortstacking the 2k
 

Getting Started in Hold 'Em - Ed Miller. Although a begginners book, the Short Stack NL strategy section is interesting even for an experienced player.

I have to say I played around with this system a tiny bit, and I found it easier in theory than it was to actually execute in real life. I don't have very much NL experience though.

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Gonna keep trying it for a bit, but cant for another few days as midterms are begining.