Aces vs. what are obviously aces 100 PLO
 

This is probably a retarded question, but I actually am not sure, so I'll just ask...

PokerStars Pot-Limit Omaha High, $1.00 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($39.30)
UTG ($47)
UTG+1 ($91.55)
Hero ($254.55)
MP2 ($101.85)
CO ($53.10)
Button ($40.65)
SB ($88.30)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $19.5</font>, Hero calls $15, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $40.65</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $91.55</font>, Hero folds

Ok, so I have aces, great. I'm 99% certain that EP also has aces though, so now basically I'm playing a 1 pair hand vs. 2 other players and I really don't have much else working for me. I def. would have called if I had some straight / flush possibilities but really the only thing that can work for me here is the jack. So at best, I think I'm splitting villain #2s money, who is short (which also factored into my decision) and more likely, probably splitting, or even losing, a side pot.

If anything is terribly off in my line of thinking please correct me.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces
 

I think calling the limp reraise was bad. When it's back to you the first time, you have to make the decision to go allin or fold there.

The way you played it it's just a math problem that I'm sure Silent A would like to do for you.

Also, your stacks are off if UTG+1 has 91.85 but raises to 110.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces
 

edited that, not sure what happened in the converter. also, ty beset for adding the stakes to the title, i'll do that myself in the future.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces 100 PLO
 

First, you can't just assume an opponent has aces here, especially at this level. Second, the single most important fact about aces is they play better heads-up. So just reraise preflop and hope the button folds. Either way you are committed now so enjoy the variance.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces 100 PLO
 

Putting in 15 dollars then folding is very bad. You aren't deep enough to pass aces even these very weak ones. I would have repotted the limp reraise all in. I would also have limped preflop. I think the deception of hitting a set out ways the small equity gained by raising these junky aces.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces
 

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The way you played it it's just a math problem that I'm sure Silent A would like to do for you

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Hmm. Am I becoming the resident PLO mathematician?

It'll cost you about $72.50 to stay in a pot that's about $150 (after rake) so you're getting about 2.1 to 1 (i.e. you need 32% or more equity to call).

It's kind of hard to make a good estimate of your equity but the worst case scenario (against a double suited medium run and better aces) is that you have about 20% of the main pot and 40% of the side pot. The main pot will be about $120 and the side pot about $100 so a call here is worth at least 0.2*120 + 0.40*100 = $64.

That's close to a worst case scenario. It wouldn't take much for you to be about 30% in the main pot and 60% in the side pot (0.3*120 + 0.6*100 = $96). Obviously a no-brainer call here.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces
 

Thanks everyone for the replies, I definitely learned a thing or 2.

Re: Aces vs. what are obviously aces
 

Easy easy all in after UTG+1s lr.