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mike l. 11-07-2006 05:04 AM

outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
i get JJ today in the 1-2 at commerce. i raise mp, button who is loose passive 3 bets, short asian guy who is tight with raises and who folded 99 to a 3 bet in the sb earlier starts talking all cocky like to the button and saying stuff like whatre you gonna do if i 4 bet. he's relishing the moment i gather. then he 4 bets. i fold, getting 5 to 1 plus implied odds should i flop a set, but not caring because im certain im against AA or maybe KK and dont want to be bothered with such technicalities.

how bad is that?

brick 11-07-2006 05:28 AM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
you got me smiling. Tommy once asked "Do you control the cards or do they control you?"


May not be the best play but that isn't always the point.

newhizzle 11-07-2006 07:00 AM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
i had a hand against deathdonkey a couple weeks ago at the bellagio where i opend pocket sevens in MP, he 3-bet next in, folded to me and i mucked

he showed 79s, but knowing how good he runs, i think it was an expert laydown

BradL 11-07-2006 08:00 AM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
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i had a hand against deathdonkey a couple weeks ago at the bellagio where i opend pocket sevens in MP, he 3-bet next in, folded to me and i mucked

he showed 79s, but knowing how good he runs, i think it was an expert laydown

[/ QUOTE ]

expert indeed.

-Brad

Tommy Angelo 11-07-2006 10:42 AM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
"i fold"

even money

"not caring"

priceless

skp 11-07-2006 02:17 PM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
4 bets is the cap in LA, no?

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i fold, getting 5 to 1 plus implied odds should i flop a set, but not caring because im certain im against AA or maybe KK...How bad is that?

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Yup, that's a pretty bad fold.

You have got one of them pegged on an overpair. So, your JJ is an extremely easy hand to play. You either flop a set and collect a big pot or you miss and fold.

JJ would be tougher to play where you can't put a guy so squarely on an overpair as then (a) you may not know that you should fold on a ten high flop or (b) you may not get much action when you flop a set.

kahntrutahn 11-07-2006 02:20 PM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
I need to get back into that 1/2 game... you are all such nits...

Gabe 11-07-2006 03:37 PM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
[ QUOTE ]
i get JJ today in the 1-2 at commerce. i raise mp, button who is loose passive 3 bets, short asian guy who is tight with raises and who folded 99 to a 3 bet in the sb earlier starts talking all cocky like to the button and saying stuff like whatre you gonna do if i 4 bet. he's relishing the moment i gather. then he 4 bets. i fold, getting 5 to 1 plus implied odds should i flop a set, but not caring because im certain im against AA or maybe KK and dont want to be bothered with such technicalities.


how bad is that?

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yeah, that's bad, but this is badder:

"i get JJ today in the 1-2 at commerce. i raise mp, button who is loose passive 3 bets, short asian guy who is tight with raises and who folded 99 to a 3 bet in the sb earlier starts talking all cocky like to the button and saying stuff like whatre you gonna do if i 4 bet. he's relishing the moment i gather. then he 4 bets....im certain im against AA or maybe KK "

i call and fold for 1 bet on a 8 high flop, and see a third J slide off on the turn and not care.

this is the dope ass baddest:

i haven't played a hand in 3 hours and pretty stuck, "i get JJ. i raise mp, button who is loose passive 3 bets, short asian guy who is tight with raises and who folded 99 to a 3 bet in the sb earlier starts talking all cocky like to the button and saying stuff like whatre you gonna do if i 4 bet. he's relishing the moment i gather. then he 4 bets...im certain im against AA or maybe KK "

i call and fold for 1 bet on a 8 high flop, only to see two AK's chop on the river unimproved and not care.

Bill King 11-07-2006 04:17 PM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
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[ QUOTE ]
i had a hand against deathdonkey a couple weeks ago at the bellagio where i opend pocket sevens in MP, he 3-bet next in, folded to me and i mucked

he showed 79s, but knowing how good he runs, i think it was an expert laydown

[/ QUOTE ]

expert indeed.

[/ QUOTE ]

mike l. 11-07-2006 04:28 PM

Re: outdoing tommy, andy fox, and maybe even TxRedMan!
 
the middle one would not bother me. it'd make me laugh a little. the last one would bother me, but i read hands pretty well so it's not too likely.


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