Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

The guy is a god ! dunno how he made the good fold after that flop.

amazing

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

That was a big laydown.

Doyle has QQ Utg and raises
Chip had KK behind Doyle, calls
David Singer in MP calls with 66

Doyle makes a significant, but non-committing bet on 732 rainbow board. Chip mini-raises, David Singer fold his 66, and Doyle thinks. After a while, he mucks, exposing one Queen.

This spurs some conversation leading Andy Bloch to believe that he folded AQ, saying he can't fold QQ there, and TJ chimes in "If he thinks their beat he'll fold 'em."


The fold probably has plenty to do with the dynamics between Chip and Doyle over the years.

Still though - un-freakin-believable laydown - apparently TJ even found the possibility for fold there, but that's a tough laydown.

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

That wasn't a big laydown, it was collusion. Doyle and Chip are known to be partners and I am quite sure they had some sort of deal going. Do I have evidence? No, of course not.

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

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That wasn't a big laydown, it was collusion. Doyle and Chip are known to be partners and I am quite sure they had some sort of deal going. Do I have evidence? No, of course not.

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So just because two friends play together and one of the best poker players ever makes a big laydown that leads you to state that there was collusion going on...Really bright analysis

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

If Reese went allin I bet Doyle calls.

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That wasn't a big laydown, it was collusion. Doyle and Chip are known to be partners and I am quite sure they had some sort of deal going. Do I have evidence? No, of course not.

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So just because two friends play together and one of the best poker players ever makes a big laydown that leads you to state that there was collusion going on...Really bright analysis

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I think Shandrax was joking.

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

I was not joking, I still think it was collusion, in fact I am 100% sure. They both knew that it was obvious and that's why they looked extremely uncomfortable with it.

Flop comes 2-3-7 rainbow and Chip re-raises the minimum giving Doyle the chance to move in with aces in which case he would have folded his kings without much of a thought (losing the minimum on the play)...

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I was not joking, I still think it was collusion, in fact I am 100% sure. They both knew that it was obvious and that's why they looked extremely uncomfortable with it.

Flop comes 2-3-7 rainbow and Chip re-raises the minimum giving Doyle the chance to move in with aces in which case he would have folded his kings without much of a thought (losing the minimum on the play)...

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This makes sense to me on the surface, without thinking about it further. Collusion but not really cheating.


One theoretical question I wonder about sometimes, not of practical interest to me because I don't play 4000/8000 nor with any regulars -- if 9 people are at a table and they know each others' betting patterns, and then a 10th player sits down, isn't that 10th player at a disadvantage? Don't we see that in posts here with "reads" all the time?


The implications remind me of prisoner's dilemma a little bit...

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

This is degenerating into one of the most ridiculous threads ever.

Re: Doyles Fold Of QQ at the 50k Horse Final Table!
 

while it was a great laydown, chip's play smelled like a set more than anything, so it's not like doyle knew chip was slowplaying AA/KK.