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sightless 10-31-2006 08:46 PM

help on turn please
 
opponent is 42/12/1 over a couple of orbits
I need to go to showdown more, so i am tryign to find spopts when to go there, is this one of those spots?

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, HERO!?

Scary_Tiger 10-31-2006 08:48 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
Call, fold river unimproved.

sightless 10-31-2006 08:50 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
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Call, fold river unimproved.

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thanx man [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

MacGuyV 10-31-2006 09:59 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
I'd fold the turn.

sightless 10-31-2006 10:37 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
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I'd fold the turn.

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also good [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Unguarded 10-31-2006 10:54 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
Folding the flop is best imo. You represented a big pocket pair and he said "give me your damn money". This is AA/KK way too often.

sightless 10-31-2006 11:03 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
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Folding the flop is best imo. You represented a big pocket pair and he said "give me your damn money". This is AA/KK way too often.

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I almost never fold flop here, am I wrong?

BlueLaser 10-31-2006 11:13 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
You can't fold the flop getting 11.5:1 when his range still probably includes 88-QQ as well as KK AA (Or maybe an oddly played AK or AQ or something). I will fold the turn normally UI against someone who seems to be slighly passive post flop.

Redeye 10-31-2006 11:23 PM

Re: help on turn please
 
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You can't fold the flop getting 11.5:1 when his range still probably includes 88-QQ as well as KK AA (Or maybe an oddly played AK or AQ or something). I will fold the turn normally UI against someone who seems to be slighly passive post flop.

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Correct. Folding the flop sucks. This is a blind steal spot and villian often has a pair where you have 6 outs to.

willwonka 11-01-2006 12:33 AM

Re: help on turn please
 
I'm giving up on the turn. While a loose player, he is not a crazy man preflop raiser. With his normal lack of aggression and showing it here, I would fold the turn and live to fight another day; however, like you said, I wouldn't be ready to give up on the flop.

But unimproved on the turn... save your big bets for a better spot.


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