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Vammakala 10-23-2006 02:18 PM

Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter

UTG ($51.50)
MP ($4.45)
Button ($154.80)
SB ($29.50)
Hero ($65.90)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB calls $2.

Flop: ($5) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($11) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3</font>, SB calls $3.

River: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>

The turn bet was designed to induce a CR. Didn't work. However, the rivercard looks like a PERFECT card to bet at because if he has a weaker ace, he probably thinks he either wins or splits. Unless he ofc has AQ, but I believe I would've heard from that hand already. No stats on the villain.

Yaboosh 10-23-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
Push river please.

slickss 10-23-2006 02:24 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
What's FPS?

Difficult to figure out his range, as he completes and then calls a 5BB raise - in bad position. I think the play is right unless he is in sick shape with A3, 34 or 55.

Yaboosh 10-23-2006 02:25 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
Fancy Play Syndrome

He isn't questioning whether or not his hand is good (because if it wasn't that is obviously BBV not a real concern).

He is questioning whether or not the turn bet was dumb or not. I think it was pretty bad without a good read on the villain.

Sir Winalot 10-23-2006 02:26 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
I hope you had some kind of read for the turn, because against an unknown I wouldn't do this, but make it 7-11 on turn. I guess your flop bet is okay but I'd be more inclined to pot it.

I don't think you'll get called too much on the river though, because you bet about the same amount all the way and then 5x that on the river, and even my grandma sees through that.

Yaboosh 10-23-2006 02:27 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
He isn't folding an Ace here, especially with the Q on the river. PUSHHSHSHSHSHHSHHHHHHH

4_2_it 10-23-2006 02:37 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
Hate the turn bet. You give the draws very nice immediate odds. If he's calling $3, he is calling $8, which allows you to shove the river.

You should have sized your turn bet to make an AI river bet less than his remaining stack. That would be much more 'brilliant' than the way you played it.

hanster 10-23-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
Is betting $3 into a $11 pot a fancy play because I certainly cannot see it being a good play whatsoever. Ive never heard the term "inducing c/r" before. Pot the river too.

EMc 10-23-2006 03:04 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
[ QUOTE ]
Hate the turn bet. You give the draws very nice immediate odds. If he's calling $3, he is calling $8, which allows you to shove the river.

You should have sized your turn bet to make an AI river bet less than his remaining stack. That would be much more 'brilliant' than the way you played it.

[/ QUOTE ]

The turn bet gets little value too.

pokerchap 10-23-2006 03:30 PM

Re: Brilliancy or FPS ?
 
defintiley FPS. bet that turn pretty strong and get called by A9


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