Math question: folding an underfull
 

Here's a strange hand I played at full table 5-10NL.

Hero is BB (1050) with 88 and has a rocky image.
Villain is just as rocky in the cut-off (2000+).

Villain raises to 35, button calls, hero calls with 88.
Flop: K,K,2 rainbow
Everyone checks. I'm not sure why villain is checking here, but I don't like it because it seems like he could bet with just about any pocket pair here and take down the pot most of the time the way the game was playing.

Turn: 8 that puts a second spade on board. I have 8s full, I check and now villain bets 90. Button folds and I just call.

River: A, no spade. I check, he bets 200, and as much as I hate it, I fold.

Now whether this was right or wrong I'll never know because I never saw his hand, and of course the more I think about it the more nitty I feel.

That said, on the river after his bet pot is laying 2.4-1.
but I think by his river action his range of hands is pretty small but of course I could be wrong. Though the turn did bring a flush draw, I doubt he thinks I'd just call with a flush draw out of position with 1 card to come on a paired board with my rocky image, so I'm thinking my turn action tells him I have something I like. This is why I folded to his river bet.

All that said, what hands do I have to narrow him down to make folding the proper play? (I suck at math and this seems like soemthing that could be solved mathematically).

Let's say his range is, KJs and KQs which I beat but also AA, KK, and AK which beat me- is the fold proper at 2.4-1? What if we add AQ, AJ and AT? Basically I'm wondering what the smallest range I have to have him on is in order for me to lay down this hand and be mathematically correct?

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uh, wow

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er in other words, you played this hand bad....c/r turn, lead turn barring that if for some reason you really don't like river, just chk call you have a boat for god's sake.

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Holy cow.

Bet turn, re-raise get it in, etc.

On the river, if he's the tightest player in the history of poker, call quick.

If you have a tendency to make these type of folds, ALWAYS fastplay your big hands WHEN you pick them up.

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There was a group of children touring my workplace today, and I decided to read this thread to them. It made them cry. See what you've done?

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This hand did not happen.

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This hand did not happen.

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Tell that to the kids who are scarred for life now.

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I think he probably has AK or KK, but I would call anyway.

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Holy cow.

Bet turn, re-raise get it in, etc.

On the river, if he's the tightest player in the history of poker, call quick.

If you have a tendency to make these type of folds, ALWAYS fastplay your big hands WHEN you pick them up.

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I don't make folds like this often. In fact in the last few months I can count the number of times on 1 finger.