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CardRG 10-20-2006 12:39 PM

Errors--Bloopers--Misplays
 
How many errors do you make per session? Ever counted them, kept an average? By errors I mean bad or sloppy play, stuff like misreading a board, totally missing that straight draw or three to a flush.

It should make no difference whether it wins you money or loses you money.

Misreading an opponent or any of the countless second guess scenarios that we always go through, shouldn’t count. Hind sight, of course, being 20/20. I’m talking pure, unadulterated errors in technique or execution.

For example, in the heat of battle, do you miscount outs, give yourself the wrong odds, make a play that you wouldn’t have made if you had just taken a few extra seconds to consider?

Of course, some so called “errors” are merely another way of skinning the proverbial cat. Where others are bad any way you slice ‘em, like raising the pot under the mistaken impression that you have the nuts—only to have your flush kicked in the rear by a full house you didn’t see.

In a hundred hands are you capable of playing flawlessly? Do you do so often? Armed with the same information would you play all hundred hands the same way?

9LIVES 10-20-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Errors--Bloopers--Misplays
 
Very interesting topic. When playing online, I VERY rarely make these types of mistakes. Having everything organized, the fast rate of play, etc., keeps me focused.

In a live tourney or in an 8-hour session, I probably make one or two.

I'll tell you the worst (yet best) "mistake" I have ever made. I was head's up in the pot ($2/$5 NL). I flopped a set of sixes and a boat on the turn...and didn't realize it. The turn card was also a flush [scare] card and the guy went all in. I folded my pocket 6's face up, and he said, "You're folding a boat?!?!"

I felt like such an idiot...for a split second...then I quipped, "Yeah, I know you made that straight flush." I was, of course, 100% joking.

As the dealer was starting to take my cards, the player said, "You know your cards are still live. I am a nice guy and will let you call if you want to."

The dealer stopped...I went into the tank...and realized...this dude really does have the straight flush.

I told the dealer to muck my cards, and the guy, in half-disgust/half-awe flipped over his straight flush. "That's the most impressive read AND lay down I have ever seen," he said.

The dealer agreed...but squinted his eyes at me in skepticism. I just winked at him.

Gonso 10-21-2006 05:07 AM

Re: Errors--Bloopers--Misplays
 
In terms of just pure accidental error, not very often, though I'm more susceptible when I'm tired. Misreading the board is something I virtually never do anymore, even in Omaha.

In terms of mistakes according to FTP, then, quite a bit. I am NOT able to play flawlessly for 100 hands. I'm certain will I never be able to do it as long as my opponents play with their cards face down.

AaronBrown 10-21-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Errors--Bloopers--Misplays
 
[ QUOTE ]
I'll tell you the worst (yet best) "mistake" I have ever made. I was head's up in the pot ($2/$5 NL). I flopped a set of sixes and a boat on the turn...and didn't realize it. The turn card was also a flush [scare] card and the guy went all in. I folded my pocket 6's face up, and he said, "You're folding a boat?!?!"

I felt like such an idiot...for a split second...then I quipped, "Yeah, I know you made that straight flush." I was, of course, 100% joking.

As the dealer was starting to take my cards, the player said, "You know your cards are still live. I am a nice guy and will let you call if you want to."

The dealer stopped...I went into the tank...and realized...this dude really does have the straight flush.

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Why would anyone with a straight flush go all-in on the turn? Especially with a pair on board, he wants every opportunity for people to draw to full houses, or maybe the guy with the Ace of the suit to get an Ace-high flush. Whatever calls he's going to get on the turn, he'll get more calls on the river.

But then he proved he was no poker player by mentioning he was a "nice guy" and would let your cards stay live. A poker player would turn to the dealer and say "I know he didn't say 'fold' but turning cards over is always considered a fold. I insist his cards are dead. Even a dealer as brain-dead as you know that. I want a floorman!"

The most common mistake I make is something in between the pure errors and hindsight. I sometimes figure a hand a certain way, then afterwards realize it made a lot more sense another way (the way it actually turned out). That usually happens when I have a read, see something that confirms it, and forget to keep thinking.


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