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Mossberg 10-16-2006 06:45 PM

Underpair on monotone flop
 
Villain was unknown. I usually raise preflop, I'm not sure why I chose not to here. Anyways, what's your line? If I were to raise preflop, lead the flop, and get raised, how should I proceed with this opponent (on a club turn in particular)?

Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, 3 folds, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2.33SB, 2 players)
Hero ___________?

Carmine 10-16-2006 07:46 PM

Re: Underpair on monotone flop
 
I rarely raise in this spot unless I know opponent to be weak-tight. There's probably some good arguements for it so I'll listen to what others have to say.

As played I lead the flop if called i'm pretty much giving up. We are OOP and the pot is as small as they come.

Mossberg 10-16-2006 09:36 PM

Re: Underpair on monotone flop
 
Thanks Carmine.

I'm interested to hear what others have to say..? If you hit a club on the turn are you showing it down?

RunDownHouse 10-16-2006 10:27 PM

Re: Underpair on monotone flop
 
I know the hands aren't very similar, but your post reminded me of this post from MHSH which contained this link to an Andrew Prock post about small PPs in the blind. Interesting read.

BlueLaser 10-16-2006 10:44 PM

Re: Underpair on monotone flop
 
I agree with Carmine. I don't think that I raise this PF ever OOP against 1 opponent who limped 2 off the button. Against an unknown I lead the flop and fold to a raise. Unless they are raising with air and no club you are at best a coinflip on this board and, are almost as likely to be pretty far behind when raised with nothing worth fighting for. I think the turn decision if they peel will be harder. I think I would b/f pretty much any turn, especially a club, against an unknown who limped PF (this suggests to me that they are a bit on the passive side, but who knows).

dano 10-17-2006 03:12 AM

Re: Underpair on monotone flop
 
I think raising preflop here and checking are both viable options, and it comes down to reads. If I'm playing a player who will quickly fold a flop if it is raised, a preflop raise is good. I just check against an unknonw.

On the flop, I donk, folding to a raise. In fact, unless a 3 comes on the turn, one SB is all I'm putting in here.


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