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Hattifnatt 10-13-2006 10:01 AM

2nd nuts
 
Villian (SB) is 39/13/1.7 after 426 hands.

Hero has a LAG image preflop and semi-LAG postflop. Me and Villian has been up against eachother a few times this session starting with me winning a few half big pots and then he winning a few.

He has not 3-betted me from the blinds on any occassion earlier this session.

Stacks:
Hero: $585
Villian: $1069

Prima 3/6 5-handed

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, Hero raises to 21, Villian calls, BB folds

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (48, 2 players)
Villian checks, Hero bets 41, Villian calls

Turn: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (130, 2 players)
Villian checks, Hero checks

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (130, 2 players)
Villian checks, Hero bets 128, Villian thinks for 5 seconds and pushes, 395 for me to call. Easy fold?

Comments on all streets appreciated.

Zag 10-13-2006 10:41 AM

Re: 2nd nuts
 
Well, it sure isn't an easy fold. Against a passive enough player, I might be able to find a fold here, but it would take some doing.

You don't think you will see something stupid like QJ or TT or a naked bluff one-third of the time, which is all you need to justify a call? And throw in the added times when he has KQ, and you just sucked out a split. The tilt factor should be pretty profitable in this case.

Let me say the same thing in another way: He would have to have AK MORE than TWO-THIRDS of the time for a fold to be correct. I don't see it.

Phresh 10-13-2006 10:44 AM

Re: 2nd nuts
 
Um, I'm not folding this. I doubt he's check-calling a PSB on that rainbow flop with AK.

luckychewy 10-13-2006 10:59 AM

Re: 2nd nuts
 
lol, if you want to fold this...

fsista 10-13-2006 11:24 AM

Re: 2nd nuts
 
Very easy call, I suppose all streets are snadard, though you could bet turn depending on read. I'd bet less on the river though, as I want him to be induced to raise with an 8 or to call with some freaky 2 pair holding.

Hattifnatt 10-13-2006 12:15 PM

Result
 
Seems like it was a clear call. I did call and he did have AK for the nuts.

Was a little tilted atm because of a 350 worthy misclick a little time before this hand. It did felt like a spew/tilt-call for some reason but I guess it wasnt then.

To salt the wound this was against the same guy as the misclick, the 444-hand (that I won) I posted 2 days ago was also vs this guy, next time I will get him. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

Zag 10-13-2006 12:21 PM

Re: Result
 
Remember that pause before pushing on the check-raise. If he does that again, fold.

Hattifnatt 10-13-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Result
 
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Remember that pause before pushing on the check-raise. If he does that again, fold.

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terp 10-13-2006 12:25 PM

Re: Result
 
i don't know that i fold this ATM but this is calling for a split 90% of the time.

do you guys really find that people c/f AQ/AK on these kinds of boards, even for pot? i can never get them to fold till they at least peel one more off...

Hattifnatt 10-13-2006 03:35 PM

Re: Result
 
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i don't know that i fold this ATM but this is calling for a split 90% of the time.

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That was what I was thinking bout after the hand.

Is this a fold if we say that I for some reason are 100% sure he have a K (with an ace to it or not).


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