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Nichomacheo 10-09-2006 08:19 PM

$50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
$50 HUSNG on PokerStars --

Opponent's numbers are 25/33/42 with a AF aggression of 2. Those numbers are limp/call/raise percentages from the small blind. My notes are "Aggressive, Weak, Overvbets Pots, Tricky". He has limped with kings, checked them down, checked all the way with top two pair, hence the weak comment. While he is aggressive preflop, he has been pretty weak/timid postflop. I've got a 2-1 lead without much work, simply playing tight, aggressive poker.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (2 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero (t1930)
BB (t1070)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t60</font>, BB calls t40.

Flop: (t120) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t80</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to t160</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ?</font>

Given my notes on him, what do you make of his min-raise here? Furthermore, what do you do? He has t850 behind.

Nichomacheo

jay_shark 10-09-2006 09:28 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
If he plays kings by checking it down , then you can safely wait for a better spot .

He may have ace 7 , ace 9 and occasionally players will mini raise with a straight or flush draw. If he's a tight postflop player , then you should muck this hand on the flop .

Another option may be to just call and see how he plays the turn . By calling , you signal to your opponent that you have top pair . If he throws in a psb , then fold .

The difficulty is quantifying how tight of a pf player he is . Most of the time , we don't have enough information to determine this .

Nichomacheo 10-09-2006 10:54 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
Would you say tightness is or isnt directly related to preflop folding percentage? That is, if a player never folds preflop from the button (as first to act), then he is loose and if he folds a lot, he is tight? Preflop only.

omgwtfnoway 10-09-2006 11:45 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
i think that's a fair way to label players, that's how i think of player's preflop

theordinaryboy 10-10-2006 06:18 AM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
i think its very difficult for us to put him on exactly A9 or A7. I would think the majority of the time we are actually ahead here.

i would call the flop min-raise and push his turn bet, or bet 3-400 if he checks turn. Or if i was feeling particularly daring i'd call his turn and river bet or call turn and push river if he checks.

Has he min-raised oop before?
He could have a weaker A could be bluffing thinking you didnt have an A. I just think folding is a bit weak especially with the chip lead that you have (i.e. if he does have you beat then your still well in the game).

passthesuga 10-10-2006 10:02 AM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
Agree here, folding is not an option IMO.

The turn is another matter, but this is an easy call (I would consider a re-raise but from your description a call sounds better), you are probably ahead.

If he hammers the turn, you can get away unscathed.

MEJG2 10-10-2006 12:04 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
Agree with a call too...

I think this is an easy call. If he has us beat and is tricky, how often does he CR here vs waiting until the turn. Unless you had drew out on him recently, I think he slow plays 2 pr or tips here with a flat call. I think he is just making a play here as you would need an "A" to call him with and he hopes you don't have it.

If he has us beat - I update his notes to say "very" tricky. But from your notes, he seems to be a slow player and unless he has changed gears, I find most of these changes to be bluffs at the pot or feeler bets.

Nichomacheo 10-10-2006 12:22 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
I agree that vs a standard player a call and re-eval on the turn would be best. The problem, and the reason I posted this, is that my opponent likes to slow play hands, so what is he raising with here? I think A9 and A7 slow play, which leaves the possible 97 plus T8, 86 maybe. I had a hard time putting him on a hand because I know he is passive with good hands.

Nichomacheo 10-10-2006 12:23 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
Also, would your decision be easier or tougher if it was a 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] rather than a 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]?

MEJG2 10-10-2006 12:55 PM

Re: $50 HUSNG -- Top Pair, Strange Spot
 
I think tougher if it was a spade. B/c then I don't know if he is protecting 2 pr or is drawing to the flush. But I would likely but him on the flush draw, b/c I don't think he CR as you could take a free card.

I think the hand also depends on how often he has seen you bet when he checks the flop.

I honestly prob raise a good time in this situation, depending on the history to this point.


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