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TomorMatt 01-27-2006 03:07 AM

King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
This is my first post so forgive me if it is a little choppy. I have been lurking on the site for a while and I think the advice is hugely helpful. I think I played this hand poorly from the flop on and would like any comments. The hand is from Full Tilt so the converter did not work.

Table is 1/2NL. I had been playing a while at the table, but the villian sat down a few hands before and I have no reads and had not played a hand since villian sat down.

Stack Size:

Seat 1: Hero ($195.80)
Seat 2: stokedhawk ($124.30)
Seat 3: Taildragger ($198)
Seat 4: Villian ($307.65)
Seat 5: boblee52 ($185.60)
Seat 6: mainer12 ($466.50)
Seat 7: sakurabavn ($180.50), is sitting out
Seat 8: CoachWEEZ ($213.70)
Seat 9: NocketPines ($163.25)

I am in SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Villian limps in UTG+1, UTG +2 limps, folds to me, I call, BB checks.

Flop is 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

I lead with pot size bet ($8) BB folds, Villian raises to $16, UTG+2 Folds, I call. Pot size $32.

Turn 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I check, Villian checks

River J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

I bet $10, Villian pushes me all in

Now what?

My thought at the time is that he limped with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] x [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], has the 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]; or got the full house when the board paired on the river. My guess is that he thinks I hit the flush on the river and have a big [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

I think I made a mistake not betting the turn when I hit the straight and possible should have checked on the river to induce a value bet that I could call. Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated.

Hoopster81 01-27-2006 03:10 AM

Re: King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
bet the turn, fold to a raise

fold the river

wheatrich 01-27-2006 04:29 AM

Re: King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
The easiest river fold you will ever make.

highhustla 01-27-2006 02:47 PM

Re: King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
I would bet the turn fo sho, 1/2-3/4 pot, whatever. Don't be scared of the flush. Probably the cheapest way to get away from villain's flush is to bet into it, anyway.

This can't be right:

[ QUOTE ]
I lead with pot size bet ($8) BB folds, Villian raises to $16, UTG+2 Folds, I call. Pot size $32.

[/ QUOTE ]

Pot must be $40? So you're betting 1/4 pot on the river? What does this bet accomplish?

And villain is pushing for 3x pot? fold ofdl ofdl ofold ofld

Lucky 01-27-2006 03:04 PM

Re: King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
instafold river.

on turn, if he's aggressive and will bet non flush (but may not call if he views you as tight, c/c may be way to go.

If he's more passive, ie typcial fulltilt full 1/2 player, bet 1/2 on turn.

thedustbustr 01-27-2006 03:18 PM

Re: King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
I agree with above about betting the turn.

I've made that river call before, and I'll never make it again.

NickPoker 01-27-2006 04:43 PM

Re: King High Flush on River--Easy Fold?
 
I agree with everyone, bet the turn (about 2/3 to 3/4 pot). If I did decide to check the turn as you did, and thought there was a chance my hand was good. I would check the river, and maybe call a reasonable river bet. No way I call a push though. A weak bet was the worse thing you fould have done. I bet the villain had the 10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], hoping you would call with the Ace. Of course the way you played makes it possible that he puts you on a marignal hand and is trying take you off of it. Regardless though you have to lay down.


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