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MikeMcQ1 09-17-2006 11:31 PM

(60) TT overpair in EP
 
Looking for general strategy PF and post here.
Only read is that I know SB is a heavy loser.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t1500)
UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1480)
Button (t1530)
SB (t1490)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Hero calls t20, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">MP2 folds</font>, <font color="red">MP3 raises to t60</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, Button calls t60, SB calls t50, <font color="gray">BB folds</font>, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t260) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero...

nuggetz87 09-17-2006 11:41 PM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
i'd raise preflop. in this case i'd bet 180 on flop.

pineapple888 09-18-2006 12:19 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
Preflop looks fine, I'm playing medium pairs for set value in EP early.

Postflop, a bet looks blindingly obvious (3/4 pot or so), and evaulate from there. Just don't go broke unimproved.

MikeMcQ1 09-18-2006 12:34 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
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Preflop looks fine, I'm playing medium pairs for set value in EP early.

Postflop, a bet looks blindingly obvious (3/4 pot or so), and evaulate from there. Just don't go broke unimproved.

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You would raise JJ there preflop, though, right?

I bet 200 and they all folded. If I had gotten raised by a pre-flop caller (not the original raiser), what's your plan? I think I'm folding for sure against the original raiser.

pineapple888 09-18-2006 12:53 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
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Preflop looks fine, I'm playing medium pairs for set value in EP early.

Postflop, a bet looks blindingly obvious (3/4 pot or so), and evaulate from there. Just don't go broke unimproved.

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You would raise JJ there preflop, though, right?

I bet 200 and they all folded. If I had gotten raised by a pre-flop caller (not the original raiser), what's your plan? I think I'm folding for sure against the original raiser.

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I don't know, ask nuggetz and bigt instead, they are obviously the best players on the forum.

P.S. Generally raise JJ and read-dependent on what to do vs. a raise post-flop, but like I said, don't go broke.

MikeMcQ1 09-18-2006 12:55 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
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I don't know, ask nuggetz and bigt instead, they are obviously the best players on the forum.

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Whoa, where did this come from, Pineapple? I hope it's not something I said [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

edit: nm, saw the other post. I think that big downswing of yours is getting to you...buck up happy camper, and turn that frown upside down [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Burno 09-18-2006 02:47 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
Preflop is cool. Looks like it's the 2nd hand of the tourney. I do prefer a limp then, though I'd often raise this to 80 as well.

I'm leading flop for about what you did, but I hate these spots. If we don't take it down here we are in awfully tought spots on the next two streets. Very few turns feel safe and there is a chance we are already crushed.

Given your read, however, I'd be delighted to get AI vs the SB here. Otherwise I'm reluctant to stack off unimproved.

Myst 09-18-2006 03:05 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
Bet 3/4 into the raiser and reevalute from there. If he raises, fold. If he flat calls, then you have to put him on a hand range (isnt poker fun!)

Green Kool Aid 09-18-2006 03:08 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
bet flop. i like a shutdown if he calls flop.

cha59 09-18-2006 09:12 AM

Re: (60) TT overpair in EP
 
I call preflop. I dont like reraising with TT to play it out of position.

I would bet something like 160 - 200. You are most likely ahead, there are a lot of bad cards that can leave you guessing if you give a free card and I dont really think I want to try a checkraise here because all you have is one pair. I'd rather take the pot down here (and/or get some info) than bloating it with what could be a 2nd best hand.


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