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Supern 09-09-2006 05:36 AM

SH Set confusion
 
The villain didn't play any hand this aggressive before or after this hand. He seemed like a solid [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] loose aggressive player. He haven't seen me getting to much out of line.

Prima No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed at a full ring table)

Hero ($75)
UTG ($30)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero raises to $0.4, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: ($0.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $0.7, Hero calls.

Great I flop a set! A slowplay might just do the trick (only a possible straight draw)

Turn: ($2.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $1.4, Hero raises to $3.5, UTG raises to $5.6, Hero calls.

Ok time to punish him a little with a raise (a bit on the small side). What, he repops me out of position? Overpair, TP, set, two pair or the awful 76? I call and re-evaluate the river.

River: ($13.55) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $12.1, Hero ?

He 3-bets me OOP on the turn and make a PSB (very uncommon at these tables).

Most probable hands now: KK (not likely since limp-call), 88 set (prob raise preflop), 33 set (likely), 76s straight (likely) or 98 two pair (not so likely since I have 99). Can be a monsterbluff as well but I think thats highly unlikely. I don't think it's very likely he has QQ-TT or a second pair.

I think he has either 33 or 76. Of course I didn't have the time to analyze this much at the table. [img]/images/graemlins/ooo.gif[/img]

Easy call?

MyTurn2Raise 09-09-2006 05:39 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
easy push


2nd nuts is usually gold, even with a min 3-bet on the turn

I think set over set or set against overpair over 2/3 of the time here

Supern 09-09-2006 05:44 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
Good comment.
(but it's not 2nd nuts it's 3rd nuts to 76 and KK) [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

bottomset 09-09-2006 07:08 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
I raise the flop here

but if for some reason I didn't, raise pot on the turn, and push over his 3bet

get money in the pot with your big hands

xwillience 09-09-2006 07:11 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
raise the flop and push the turn.

JackAll 09-09-2006 08:05 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
Lol ... there are no solid LAG's at 10NL. Really. None. Zip. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

He seems to like his hand on a fairly dry board, so I would raise and give him a chance to get it all in on the flop with a lower set or top pair.

As played, just get it all in on the turn. You ain't folding this hand and he's obviously not either after 3-betting, so just get it in right there.

As played, just get it in on the river (man ... why is it taking you so long?!?).

JA

n1nj4.br 09-09-2006 08:41 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
[ QUOTE ]
Lol ... there are no solid LAG's at 10NL. Really. None. Zip. Zilch. Zero. Nada.

He seems to like his hand on a fairly dry board, so I would raise and give him a chance to get it all in on the flop with a lower set or top pair.

As played, just get it all in on the turn. You ain't folding this hand and he's obviously not either after 3-betting, so just get it in right there.

As played, just get it in on the river (man ... why is it taking you so long?!?).

JA

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Supern 09-09-2006 09:14 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
[ QUOTE ]
raise the flop and push the turn.

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He has $30 and he bets $0.7, do you really think it's the right thing considering the turn completed the possible straight??

I agree that 76 ain't very likely as he played it but if he has it he autocalls and he probably fold alot of hands i beat to such extreme overbets.

The reason I think he has a great hand is that at this level PSB riverbets are unusual. And the fact that he has had some big hands and bet alot less. The way I see it considering this it's not unlikely he has the straight.

I can't see how a river raise is so mandatory as you guys see it in this situation.

n1nj4.br 09-09-2006 09:17 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
oh.... now i see, its deeeeeeeeeep stack.

dude, u have a very good hand on flop, u are too deep stack to even think about slowplaying it. Just raise like a man every street.

Supern 09-09-2006 09:19 AM

Re: SH Set confusion
 
[ QUOTE ]
Just raise like a man every street.

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This slowplay was just to mix it up a bit.
Normally I just pop him on the flop and take it from there.


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