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mgs29035 01-25-2006 12:07 AM

Help on a checkraise gone bad $11
 
I originally checked with the intention of check raising. Now I'm not so sure I have them both beat, I think SB might have a set. Is that too weak tight?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (7 handed) converter

Hero (t2605)
UTG (t2180)
MP1 (t2395)
MP2 (t2560)
CO (t2090)
Button (t320)
SB (t2850)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t120</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, SB calls t90, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t360) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t115</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t705</font>, Hero ??

Prodigy54321 01-25-2006 03:22 AM

Re: Help on a checkraise gone bad $11
 
I think his raise to t700 usually means KQ or QJ. the first better prebably either has a Q or a mid PP or nothing. A set by either one is possible, but not likely (i think less likely from the raiser that from the first bettor) I think you are fine for a push.

Prodigy54321 01-25-2006 03:31 AM

Re: Help on a checkraise gone bad $11
 
I didn't realize the BB is t60, i thought is was t30...
in this case you have to put 64 Q6 and Q4 in the range as well....you should really just call this preflop or raise more..to t180-t240. that solves this problem (for the most part). these hands added makes it closer and, but the way you played it, I'd still say to push I think you have them both beat enough of the time .

that board looked so safe (no a likely 2 pair) until I saw the it was a miniraise and not a 4x BB raise....yeah raise more next time and this becomes an easier push....now not so much, but I still think push

hopefully you can get another opinion on this

Prodigy54321 01-25-2006 03:41 AM

Re: Help on a checkraise gone bad $11
 
Holy shazbot I CAN"T READ

OK ignore everything that I just said because I thought u were the raiser preflop even though it clearly say HERO in the BB.....

OK now i see where the suspicion of the SB comes from. This may be a little weak but I'd probably fold here. This raise from the SB probably means a worse Q or any 2 pair or a set and you are not looking goood against these, and you still have the original raiser to worry about. I think that the original raiser has a worse hand than you, but his bet of less than 1/3 the pot is also somewhat suspicous. under these circumstances, I'd say that you can lay this down and find a good spot to get your money in later.

damn this hand was much easier when you were a donk who miniraised CO+4 with AQo [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

el_dusto 01-25-2006 03:56 AM

Re: Help on a checkraise gone bad $11
 
hmm....

not a fan of the flop action. I definitely would have gotten into this pot first; check-raising multiway is not fun, because then situations like this occur.

i would most likely push, and then cry when SB called and turned over 66.


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