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dirty_dan 08-28-2006 04:11 PM

PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
I hopped into a Party 5-10 full ring with an average pot of $87. I normally stick to 3-6 and below but the 3-6 were all tight monsters and I got lucky when the list momentarily emptied. Looking for critiques of my play on this hand. Forgive the lack of a well formatted hand history. I'm posting from memory.

I've played a couple orbits but haven't been paying attention. BB is 47/11/3 over a meaningless 22 hands.

I open raise in CO-1 with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and only BB calls.

Flop (4.5sb): J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
BB bets, I raise, BB 3-bets, I cap


I took his opening bet to mean a J, a 2, a small pair, spades, or anything else a loose BB would call a position raise with, so I put in the standard raise. Given my standard raise I felt his 3-bet could easily have been light and didn't think folding to his 3 bet or calling and folding to a turn bet were great options. Hence the cap to represent a good hand and take control.

Turn (6.25bb): 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
BB bets, I raise, BB calls


I thought his lead on the flush card was hinky and felt it was a good card for him to bluff on. I raised to try to fold his J, small pair or junk. Once he called I was done.

River (10.25bb): 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
BB checks, I check



My first reaction after playing this hand was that I had FPS out the wazoo, that I gave too much credit to an unknown player because I was playing a bigger game than I was used to, and that I was a complete tool. As I thought about it I changed my mind and decided my play wasn't completely horrible.

So which is it? Did I play retardedly fast and blow off 5 bets with garbage, or was my line and thought process reasonable? Tool or not?

Hobbs. 08-28-2006 04:23 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
please read the following

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...page=&vc=1

JJH3984 08-28-2006 04:27 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
bad flop raise. I actually just call down.

bozlax 08-28-2006 04:29 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
This is just spewfulicious. Where, exactly, do you feel you were giving him "too much credit"? Or, were you giving him too much credit for being able to fold, which is not indicated by the thin read you do have?

I don't think the flop raise is bad, per se, but that's the last money I'm putting in UI.

dirty_dan 08-28-2006 04:33 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
Too much credit for a being tricky, thinking player, as opposed to a nitwit like me.

JJH3984 08-28-2006 04:37 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
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I don't think the flop raise is bad, per se, but that's the last money I'm putting in UI.

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If i'm raising as the last money put in UI against this guy, it'll be on the turn.

dirty_dan 08-28-2006 04:46 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
You advocated calling down before. You like calling the flop and raising the turn better? Calling down just seems too weak here.

shark6 08-28-2006 04:49 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
If your read was "the more this guy bets and raises the worse hand he has" then you played this hand perfectly.

JJH3984 08-28-2006 04:55 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
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You advocated calling down before. You like calling the flop and raising the turn better? Calling down just seems too weak here.

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No, I'm still calling down, but if i'm gonna raise it will be on the turn. If he is as LAG as he seems, he's on a pure bluff enough to warrent the calldown. Raising at any point is not as good because we are either getting played back at (and folding what might be the best hand) or he'll fold and we aren't gaining value from a third barrel bluff.

dirty_dan 08-28-2006 04:55 PM

Re: PP5-10 - heads up with laggy BB
 
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If your read was "the more this guy bets and raises the worse hand he has" then you played this hand perfectly.


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