Tipping, automatic gratuity for large parties
 

At many restaurants it's standard for them to put an automatic gratuity for parties with more than eight people. Let's say you're out to a nice dinner at an 8+ group and the bill is pricey, but 70% of it is the wine. Gratuity automatically put on the total. Is this cool?

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Crap.

You aren't ever obligated to pay the gratuity, but thats a tough spot. I vote this an actually good tipping thread.

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this is the second time I've seen someone questioning the idea of tipping on the wine portion of the bill...

what's with that?

I personally tip on the bill regardless of the price of wine...but I've probably only maxed out at $110ish worth of wine at about 35-40% of the bill

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depends on what the tipping percentage is

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depends on what the tipping percentage is

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I thought it was basically always 18% or 20%.

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Wait, I'm not good at math, but are we talking about a 2% difference for a pretty extreme example here?

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depends on what the tipping percentage is

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I thought it was basically always 18% or 20%.

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orrect me if im wrong.
Standard tip used to be 10%, then out of nowhere (anyone know when) it became 15%, now many are saying 15 to 20%.

Should we assume in X years it will be 20%.

Now what causes the rise?
Hypothesis 1...minimum wage hasnt gone up but cost of living has so tips have had to rise to keep these waiters/waitresses at their current standard of living. But, who pushed for this?

Hyposthesis 2...There is a group of people who take pride in tipping more than standard amounts. These people also like to talk about it and it makes them feel better than others. This went on long enough that others began to feel the need to tip the same or else be looked down upon by waiters/others. Now these people who need to feel bigger than others that are making up for other insecurities need to push the tipping even further. These people will be the ones that push it to 25% next.

Hypothesis 3...Maybe something im missing. Or i was wrong and standard has always been 15-20%, but i grew up thinking it was 10% because thats what my parents tipped.

rJ_

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depends on what the tipping percentage is

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I thought it was basically always 18% or 20%.

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orrect me if im wrong.
Standard tip used to be 10%, then out of nowhere (anyone know when) it became 15%, now many are saying 15 to 20%.

Should we assume in X years it will be 20%.

Now what causes the rise?
Hypothesis 1...minimum wage hasnt gone up but cost of living has so tips have had to rise to keep these waiters/waitresses at their current standard of living. But, who pushed for this?

Hyposthesis 2...There is a group of people who take pride in tipping more than standard amounts. These people also like to talk about it and it makes them feel better than others. This went on long enough that others began to feel the need to tip the same or else be looked down upon by waiters/others. Now these people who need to feel bigger than others that are making up for other insecurities need to push the tipping even further. These people will be the ones that push it to 25% next.

Hypothesis 3...Maybe something im missing. Or i was wrong and standard has always been 15-20%, but i grew up thinking it was 10% because thats what my parents tipped.

rJ_

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Irrelevant to discussion.

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Don't ignore me skater boi!

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Crap.

You aren't ever obligated to pay the gratuity, but thats a tough spot.

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Are you saying youre not obligated to pay as in dont eat there if you dont like it. Or do you actually mean you can eat there with the 8 and you can have a choice in not paying the mandatory tip?

rJ_