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Sir P 08-18-2006 06:26 PM

number/number/number
 
hello

I was wondering what the #/#/# means when describing a player. I tried searching but I didnt know how to describe it.

also, if theres any other important terminology like this that you can explain, I would appreciate it.

thanks

AKQJ10 08-18-2006 06:42 PM

Re: number/number/number
 
Just guessing from your subject line, I'll bet this is the answer.

Now I'll hit "Continue," then actually read the post and see if I was right. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

(EDITED: Only to fix the link, twice.)

Grizwold 08-18-2006 06:55 PM

Re: number/number/number
 
Broadway [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img], I think that link is not working properly, for me at least.

Pretty much in every poker forum there is a sticky as to how to post hands, most of them contain info on those stats #/#/#, and how they are recorded (using a program called Poker Tracker, an essential program for any serious online player). But I'll sum it up, respectively those stats are VP$IP/PFR/AF. VP$IP means the % of times a player Voluntarily Puts $ In the Pot. PFR is the % of times a player Raised Pre-Flop with that hand. AF is the % of times the player has raised After the Flop. So the first # indicated roughly what kind of range of cards the player will play, the second # is how aggresive they are preflop, and the third # is how often they continue their aggresion after a flop.

Sir P 08-18-2006 07:59 PM

Re: number/number/number
 
alright got it

thanks

Abramovic 08-19-2006 08:36 AM

Re: number/number/number
 
Could we take this a step further and suggest what a solid player's statistics may show, compared to what a very poor players stats will show?

AKQJ10 08-19-2006 10:29 AM

Re: number/number/number
 
Follow the last link on the wiki and I think you'll find some of that.

Dazarath 08-19-2006 12:28 PM

Re: number/number/number
 
[ QUOTE ]
Could we take this a step further and suggest what a solid player's statistics may show, compared to what a very poor players stats will show?

[/ QUOTE ]
This depends on what you're playing. Limit vs no limit will have different "solid" stats for the average 2+2ers, and full-ring vs short-handed are different as well. One thing I'd like to point out, is that a lot of beginners fall into the trap of trying to make their game fit a certain profile of stats. For example, someone thinks that 20/12/2 is optimal for 2/4 limit hold'em, full ring. They look at their own stats and see that they're an 18/12/2, so they start calling more hands just to fill that 2% VPIP, not because they find those hands to be profitable. Or they see that their AF is too low, so they start throwing in random raises to be more "aggressive". Instead, just learn to play solidly, and the stats will follow. A variety of styles can be profitable.

PS: One last note. In PT, there's the option to include or to not include the preflop numbers in the AF calculation (General Info > More Detail > Include pre-flop numbers in total aggression factor calculation). It's standard here on 2+2 to not include them, as PFR is considered a better measure of a player's pre-flop aggression.


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