NL max buyin games? Casino/Floor people please read
 

Most of you do not know me but I am a longtime lurker of these forums and have learned a bunch from you guys.
I work the floor at a cardroom in Vienna (Austria). A couple of months ago german tv started showing poker tournaments and we are having a poker boom in Austria much like you did in the states when the WPT started going on air. Our daily tournaments have gone up from around 50 people six months ago to well over 200 now and we started spreading NL cash games which we never had up until now.

Our most popular limit is 1-2 blinds 50 min 200 max buyin and we now have 2-3 tables going every night. On to my question: when a table breaks and the remaining players draw cards for the open seats in the other games do you allow them to keep their stack or do they have to start at the new table with the max buyin at most?

I ruled that as the players come from the same game/limit they are allowed to take their seat with whatever they had at their old table even if it is more than the max buyin.

I later learned that another floor had ruled different as he said the max buyin is part of the game and if your table breaks you have to start over at the new table. I realize this is the easier solution as it also prevents players adding to their stack when between tables but on the other hand if you played for hours and come over to the remaining table which maybe also ran some time and most players have a couple of hundreds in their stacks you would be at a disadvantage by being reduced to a max buyin, just because your table happened to break.

How do you handle this? I asume that if a player asks for a table change he can only bring the max buyin and not more? What about the situation I described?

Rick, Randy, and all the others your input would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
RegBarclay

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I have zero clue as to what the ruling should be but I think of it like this...

...if I run up a $600 stack and my table breaks up but I get a move to the same game at a different table, I would like to take my entire stack...

The people at the table that I'm about to sit down at are not required to reduce their chip stacks to the max buy-in so why should I be disadvantaged as I have already been playing.

Of course, this is probably dead wrong and being that I play almost exclusively online, I have never had the good fortune to have a table break when I am way up and then bring that stack to another table (same game).

So I'm guessing that the right answer is, "Sucks that the table broke sir, max buy-in is $200 if you would like to move. Can I get you a falafel while you wait?"

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If a table breaks, the player MUST bring his accumulated chips to the next table he goes to (of the sale limit). However, if he goes to a different limit, he cannot buy in for more to the max (as he is considered a "new" player, as that point. A player from a broken table is not considered a new player.

A table switch is completely different, and is handled differently from room to room. Where I play (Venetian), the player can only buy in for the max at the new table, as he is considered a new player, unlike a player from a broken game.

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A max buy-in is pretty new to poker (well one that matters, in the old days a lot of low limit rooms limited to buyin to somethign like 2500 to avoid paperwork they had to start filling out at 3k). Generally when a table breaks the players form that game are not treated as new players so they would bring their entire stack to the new table

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I stand completely corrected.

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Man, if you could rathole chips everytime you asked for a table change, that game would be exploitable to the max.

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If a player from the broken game had less than a minimum buy-in remaining, would he be allowed into the main game? Of course he would.

If the minimum gets thrown out, then the max should, as well. Bring your whole stack.

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I know some places you can only bring up to what the biggest stack at the table has. Say you are playing $200 max buy in and you accumulate over $900 and your game breaks. You are moved to a new table and the biggest stack only has $650. You then are only allowed to put $650 on the table.

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I was playing in the $1-$3 NL at the Excalibur. I had run my $100 up to about $1100 when my table broke. I was not allowed to take any money off of the table when they moved me.