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FreakDaddy 08-15-2006 05:25 PM

Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
I don't care how much money is in the pot on the end, the check-raise on the river by Gus is a fold by Daniel. There's no hand he's beating that makes that play. Gus isn't doing that with an overpair or 5x or straight. Danny has show what a POW (pay off wizard - like they enjoy saying on the show) he really is.

alec2927 08-15-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
full house vs quads?

GixxerJoe 08-15-2006 06:00 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
With the board reading 9 6 5-5-8, after being check raised on the flop and check raised again on the river, with anybody else other than Gus it's a logical laydown, but $130K or so to call to win a $300K+ pot, I can see how there was reason to call if Gus had fives full.

TheBob 08-15-2006 06:12 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
Why do people keep saying that you could fold it to others but not Gus? Sure he plays really loose pre flop but he knows what he's doing post flop and isn't gonna check raise the river in that pot with anything Negreanu beats.

FreakDaddy 08-15-2006 06:44 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
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With the board reading 9 6 5-5-8, after being check raised on the flop and check raised again on the river, with anybody else other than Gus it's a logical laydown, but $130K or so to call to win a $300K+ pot, I can see how there was reason to call if Gus had fives full.

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Gus plays loose an aggressive UNTIL someone shows strength... he then slows down unless he has you beat. Standard LAG play.

I think the fact that Danny is getting over 3:1 and Gus knows he knows that, should make for a more obvious fold. Really... maybe Gus makes this move with 65, but that's it. Does he have the case 6 25% of the time... don't think so.

legend42 08-15-2006 07:13 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
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I think the fact that Danny is getting over 3:1 and Gus knows he knows that, should make for a more obvious fold. Really... maybe Gus makes this move with 65, but that's it. Does he have the case 6 25% of the time... don't think so.

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Why would he make this move with 65, but not 85 or 95?

FreakDaddy 08-15-2006 07:47 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
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I think the fact that Danny is getting over 3:1 and Gus knows he knows that, should make for a more obvious fold. Really... maybe Gus makes this move with 65, but that's it. Does he have the case 6 25% of the time... don't think so.

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Why would he make this move with 65, but not 85 or 95?

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65 is more realistic considering the action.

bsheck 08-15-2006 09:34 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
I bet Hellmuth would've been able to make that laydown.

Dynasty 08-15-2006 09:36 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
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I bet Hellmuth would've been able to make that laydown.

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Maybe even on the flop.

Sinochick 08-15-2006 09:48 PM

Re: Gus and Danny\'s set over set
 
Of all the classic "hands" we've seen on HSP, this one has to be #1 on the list.

Gus' check on the river was brilliant.


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