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sean c 08-15-2006 12:24 PM

KQ off
 
Party .50/1.00 FR. Villian unknown.

Pre flop: One early limper, i raise KQ off from a middle position, villian 3-bets from a late position, everyone including the early limper folds and i call.

Flop(2 players 8.5sb): AQx rainbow.

Whats the plan post flop?

plonker 08-15-2006 12:25 PM

Re: KQ off
 
I would C/R the flop. And take it from there. If he 3 bets me, and nothing comes on the turn to help me then i'm letting it go

sean c 08-15-2006 12:26 PM

Re: KQ off
 
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I would C/R the flop. And take it from there. If he 3 bets me, and nothing comes on the turn to help me then i'm letting it go

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What are you trying to accomplish with a flop check/raise?

DrModern 08-15-2006 12:27 PM

Re: KQ off
 
Check-call, reevaluate on turn.

virompl 08-15-2006 12:29 PM

Re: KQ off
 
I check call all the way down against a unknown.

sean c 08-15-2006 12:29 PM

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Check-call, reevaluate on turn.

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If the turn is a brick?

plonker 08-15-2006 12:32 PM

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I would C/R the flop. And take it from there. If he 3 bets me, and nothing comes on the turn to help me then i'm letting it go

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What are you trying to accomplish with a flop check/raise?

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Hang me out to dry with this one , but I ain't donk betting the flop. I really don't want to call down. So its either a rasie or folding. And I think folding is pretty weak, on the basis that your giving him credit for the A or pocket K/Q's.

Thats my explantion now tell me why i'm wrong [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] (which i'm sure you will)

DrModern 08-15-2006 12:33 PM

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Check-call, reevaluate on turn.

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If the turn is a brick?

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Tough one. It sort of depends on what kind of brick it is (e.g. if it opens or closes any draws). I think it's pretty marginal between check-call (with value for the read) and check-fold.

MrWookie 08-15-2006 12:38 PM

Re: KQ off
 
I could see a c/c flop, c/f turn line, but you guys who're regularly playing in this game could perhaps better tell me how often villains will bet twice with JJ here.

Dr. Matt 08-15-2006 12:40 PM

Re: KQ off
 
I think my plan is to call down to aggression. C/r the flop is worthless for info on an unknown. I think because we got a piece of it, we have equity to call down. There's no real equity to raise it at any point.


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