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davidross 01-21-2006 07:37 PM

OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
I know i'm just feeling pissed...but...

Party $million, and I've been red-hot and more than doubled early to 3100. Now I get KK UTG and make it 90 to go (blinds 15/30) 2 callers and now BB makes it 400. Right away I think AA. He has 1800 chips. I really hate calling because itwill probably draw at least one of the others in. But in his spot AA is the only hand I make that raise with. Maybe KK, but not even QQ.

He doesn't have enough chips to give me correct odds to try and hit my set. I finally decide that I can't fold, and if I call and undercards come, I'm going to be in the sameboat, so I push.And of course he has the aces.

I still haven't ever laid dowm KK pre-flop, but if ever there was a casefor doingit, this wouldseem to be it. I give up 90 chips and move on. No one knows what I laid down so what's the big deal. Ifhe had pushed it's an easy call, but that size raise says AA to me 90% of the time.

mrh86 01-21-2006 07:39 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
This doesn't even look like AA. Push.

curtains 01-21-2006 07:40 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 

If the raise said its AA 90% of the time you should have folded. For what its worth the raise doesnt say that to me! For a lot of your opponents 400 is a totally normal sized raise to make there with many hands.

JSchnett 01-21-2006 07:40 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
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This doesn't even look like AA. Push.

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what does it look like?

graydot 01-21-2006 07:41 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
Eh....

Many donks raise with 99+, AK

I think AA is much less than 90% and that it is always an incorrect play
(folding that is).

Puuuuuuush

A_C_Slater 01-21-2006 07:43 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
I think it's 19.5 to 1 for someone to have AA while you have KK at a ten handed table. That's so unlucky that the universe is almost forced to correct itself by letting you hit a set at only 4 to 1.

Push!!

davidross 01-21-2006 07:47 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
I disagree, i see the donks making the huge overraise, a push or making it 1000 or something crazy, this raise was the perfect size for someone who wants action.

freehat 01-21-2006 08:12 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
Big deal you lost KK vs. AA for 60 BB. This is just a results-oriented bad beat post.

PokerGenius 01-21-2006 08:14 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
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I think it's 19.5 to 1 for someone to have AA while you have KK at a ten handed table. That's so unlucky that the universe is almost forced to correct itself by letting you hit a set at only 4 to 1.

Push!!

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not when a player re-raises 90 to 400 early in a $600 tourney.

graydot 01-21-2006 08:17 PM

Re: OK seriously, what besides AA could he have?
 
I dont see why you dont think QQ/JJ/TT is possible.
Folding KK here is just silly imo, if he has AA so be it, but you are ahead here most of the time.

Folding here does not win tournaments


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