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Gigabet 01-20-2006 12:39 PM

Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
Level 4 (200/400)
Stacks are close approximations.
Seat 1(t30,000)
Seat 2(t8,000)
Seat 3(t20,000) (Me)
Seat 4(t75,000)
Seat 5(t26,000)
Seat 6(t12,000)
Seat 7(t40,000)
Seat 8(t8,000)

Seat 1 is the button, I am the BB(seat 3). I post 400 and am dealt...
(7h4d)

Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 (t26,000) Raises t1600, t2000 straight.
Seat 6 (t12,000) Calls t2000
Seat 7 (t40,000) Calls t2000
Seat 8 folds
Seat 1 (t30,000) Calls t2000
Seat 2 SB folds
Seat 3 (t20,000...Me) Calls t1600

flop (7s Jh 7c)

Seat 3...I check
Seat 5...Checks
Seat 6...Checks
Seat 7...Checks
Seat 1...Checks

Turn ( Qh )

Seat 3...I Check
Seat 5...Bets (t4000)
Seat 6...Raises All-in (t12000)
Seat 7...folds
Seat 1...folds
Seat 3...I Reraise All-in for a total of (t20,000)

Seat 5(t26,000) goes into the tank for about 2 minutes....and finally calls, making the comment "I just can't fold this hand."

The chips went into the pot and the dealer shoved them together, before creating a sidepot, so that had to be taken care of before we flipped our hands over and ran the river. So I had time to contemplate my demise. I say to the table, "there is absolutely no way my hand can be good."

Eventually the hands get opened, and Seat 5 opens QT, and Seat 6 opens AA?!?! This is the 4th level of the Championship event of a WPT event. Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.

Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

seke2 01-20-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
Weird. Seat 5...odd spot for a huge raise. Seat 6, I guess he figured there wouldn't be a lot of calls with a 5xBB raise so he didn't reraise. He also couldn't really reraise without pot committing, so maybe his call was just trying to disguise his hand's strength. Seat 7 and Seat 1...who knows. I guess they just liked the pot odds at that point. Same for you, calling with 74o.

Flop...lots of people with overcards who whiffed and/or people trapping with premium hands. Surprised nobody took a shot at betting here.

Turn...high card lands, original raiser bets. Then the first cold-caller goes all-in. Seat 7 and Seat 1 probably now aren't calling with anything short of TPTK, KK, AA, or a boat. When you go all-in, you're basically putting yourself on one of those hands. As far as seat 5 then calling the all-in, that's pretty ridiculous for a touring pro. I guess he thought he had some really strong reads on you guys.

Weird hand, allright. Hard to believe nobody took a shot on the flop after calling that big of a preflop raise. I'm sure you were looking to check-raise the flop, too.

ir0nphist 01-20-2006 01:08 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
seat 5 smokes crack. . . crack inhibits your ability to make rational decisions (so they say).

Honestly. . . I have no idea what he was thinking. That's awful.

CybrPunk 01-20-2006 01:11 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
I'll have to agree that this hand played out very strange for a top level event. It seems you were the only one in the hand that had a clue.

As to what they were thinking?

Seat 5 "Turned top pair and everyone checked the flop, great!"
Seat 6 "Yay action with my overpair and nobody seems to have a 7! Slowplaying was a great idea!"
You "Wow these guys are tools. Thanks for the chips, boys!"

rockin 01-20-2006 01:12 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
[ QUOTE ]
Level 4 (200/400)
Stacks are close approximations.
Seat 1(t30,000)
Seat 2(t8,000)
Seat 3(t20,000) (Me)
Seat 4(t75,000)
Seat 5(t26,000)
Seat 6(t12,000)
Seat 7(t40,000)
Seat 8(t8,000)

Seat 1 is the button, I am the BB(seat 3). I post 400 and am dealt...
(7h4d)

Seat 4 folds
Seat 5 (t26,000) Raises t1600, t2000 straight.
Seat 6 (t12,000) Calls t2000
Seat 7 (t40,000) Calls t2000
Seat 8 folds
Seat 1 (t30,000) Calls t2000
Seat 2 SB folds
Seat 3 (t20,000...Me) Calls t1600

flop (7s Jh 7c)

Seat 3...I check
Seat 5...Checks
Seat 6...Checks
Seat 7...Checks
Seat 1...Checks

Turn ( Qh )

Seat 3...I Check
Seat 5...Bets (t4000)
Seat 6...Raises All-in (t12000)
Seat 7...folds
Seat 1...folds
Seat 3...I Reraise All-in for a total of (t20,000)

Seat 5(t26,000) goes into the tank for about 2 minutes....and finally calls, making the comment "I just can't fold this hand."

The chips went into the pot and the dealer shoved them together, before creating a sidepot, so that had to be taken care of before we flipped our hands over and ran the river. So I had time to contemplate my demise. I say to the table, "there is absolutely no way my hand can be good."

Eventually the hands get opened, and Seat 5 opens QT, and Seat 6 opens AA?!?! This is the 4th level of the Championship event of a WPT event. Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.

Please explain what was going on in this hand, it flew way over my head.

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seat 5 may be a touring player, but it sure looks like he played this hand very badly. He open raised 5xBB with QTo and then calls push with top pair medium kicker on a paired board. He played this very badly.

seat 6 also played very badly, slow playing his A's preflop, then checking the flop. His play postflop was not as bad as his play preflop, but both pre and post were pretty bad.

I think this goes to show you that even some of the touring players donk it up every now and then. I hope your hand held.

These players any we know?

graydot 01-20-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
What was the river card?

Gigabet 01-20-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
[ QUOTE ]
What was the river card?

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willie 01-20-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
[ QUOTE ]
What was the river card?

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christ what does it matter


this is worse play than you would see at the 40k guaranteed tourney on party and that's saying a lot.

i don't really like your call preflop, despite pot odds and everything 74 is absolute RUBBBBISH.


seems have worked out fine though....

ir0nphist 01-20-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
[ QUOTE ]


seat 5 may be a touring player, but it sure looks like he played this hand very badly. He open raised 5xBB with QTo and then calls push with top pair medium kicker on a paired board. He played this very badly.



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he didn't just call 1 push. . . he called 2! How is that possible?

woodguy 01-20-2006 01:18 PM

Re: Hand from the ME of the World Poker Open
 
[ QUOTE ]
Both Seat 5 and Seat 6 are touring players.


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Does that necesitate that they are winning players?

Its seems not to.....

ImS0Lucky posted a while ago that just playing good tight poker seems to work at the $10K events he has played in, because everyone is busy making moves with marginal hands, its easy to get paid off....

Regards,
Woodguy


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